Honouring My Mentors – Kristos and Foster of The Golden Hummingbird and The Universal Mastermind.
In this special re-release, I’m so honoured to share the very first podcast episode I ever recorded — a deeply wise, expansive conversation with my extraordinary spiritual mentors, Foster and Kristos T Perry of The Golden Hummingbird and The Universal Mastermind.
This episode holds such a special place in my heart. Kristos and Foster were the ones who first encouraged me to begin this podcast — and now, as I begin a new chapter, it feels only right to honour them by sharing their voices again.
Although we originally spoke in the context of collective energies for a particular year, the insight they share is timeless — and speaks to deeper themes of transformation, soul growth, and navigating change with strength and clarity.
The conversation unfolds gently in two parts — because when you’re with Kristos and Foster, time tends to dissolve. What emerges is something richer, deeper, and utterly luminous.
🌿 About the Guests
Foster is a world-renowned shaman who has taught and healed across the globe for more than 30 years.
Kristos is a revered master teacher of Hermetics, Kabbalah, Astrological Witchcraft, and Higher Mind Training, generously sharing his life’s work with students around the world.
Together, online and on global tours they weave ancient wisdom with practical, soul-level support for this moment in time.
📺 Ongoing Teachings on Vimeo – Now in Series 9
Kristos and Foster’s powerful video trainings continue to evolve, now reaching Series 9. Each offering is rich with insight — and accompanied by a live Q&A with Foster and/or Kristos following every release.
View the teachings: goldenhummingbird.com
🌍 Upcoming Sacred Journeys
This year, they are offering two rare and beautiful opportunities for deeper initiation:
• A Shamanic Journey in the United States, held on sacred land
• A Sacred Journey to Egypt, rich with mystery, power, and transformation
For details on both journeys, or to register: goldenhummingbird.com
💫 Private Sessions & Tour Schedule
To experience their work personally online please see here:- https://goldenhummingbird.com/events/
I hope you enjoyed this episode. Please share, like, comment and subscribe so we can grow and reach more sensitive souls waking up to their gifts.
With love and gratitude,
Aline 💚
Transcript
Hello beautiful.
Speaker A:And a warm welcome to accepting.
Speaker A:I'm Aline, your host.
Speaker A:And in this extremely special episode, it's my honor to share with you the very first episode with my incredible spiritual mentors, Christos T. Perry and Foster Perry.
Speaker A:And I'm recording this, the sunset before this goes out because it is Christos T. Perry's birthday and a couple of days later it will be Foster Perry's birthday.
Speaker A:And it feels so beautiful to honor them with the sunset, with the liminal hours.
Speaker A:They are incredible.
Speaker A:So I hope you enjoy this episode.
Speaker A:Get yourself cozy.
Speaker A:Switch everything else off.
Speaker A:When Christos and Foster speak, we listen.
Speaker A:And I am eternally grateful to them for suggesting and nudging and gently pushing me to starting a podcast.
Speaker A:And this was a couple of years ago, the very first episode that was recorded and it wasn't shared properly.
Speaker A:It didn't go out to the world because quite frankly, I didn't understand the platforms.
Speaker A:So I am honoring all of my previous guests and the very first special guests are Christos T. Perry and Foster Perry, with huge gratitude to Christos and Foster and huge gratitude for you for tuning in.
Speaker A:So much love.
Speaker A:Hello and a warm welcome to episode one of series one of the Align with Aline podcast.
Speaker A:Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker A:And I am delighted and honored that our first guests today are Christos and Foster Perry of the Golden Hummingbird and Universal Mastermind.
Speaker A:I have no words of gratitude.
Speaker A:Now for those of you who don't know Christos and Foster, they have 30 plus years of teaching experience in shamanism, in hermetics, in witchcraft, in astrology, in, well, just to name a few.
Speaker A:I will post all the links underneath so you can find everything about them as well.
Speaker A:Now Christos and Foster have been teaching for 30 plus years all around the world.
Speaker A:They have 20, 000 plus students globally and now they have started organizing to teach us online and there are some incredible series on VIMEOS now, season five, I believe of beautiful teachings from their 30 plus experience that they are sharing with so generously, so compassionately, with love and with a lot of laughter.
Speaker A:So thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:Oh, I just can't tell you how grateful I am.
Speaker B:Well, it's great to jump start your podcast finally.
Speaker B:We were talking about this for an Aon basically, but here we are.
Speaker B:Come on honey, push, push.
Speaker A:So we, we've been talking a lot.
Speaker A:I've been going on and I've been really feeling about talking about the New Moon influence and we're now in the Year of the Water Rabbits.
Speaker A:So could you speak to us a little bit, please, about what, what is the water rabbit year, how we can work with that and how you would recommend, when we're in.
Speaker A:In a place at the moment we're in retrograde, three planets.
Speaker A:So how we can work with this and how we can keep the positive aspect of the water rabbit whilst everything is going on around us in the world, basically.
Speaker C:Well, the water rabbit definitely is connected to the moon because rabbits themselves are symbols of the moon.
Speaker C:You know, we have the Wicca symbol of the two rabbits jumping over the moon, the white rabbits.
Speaker C:And in, you know, when we get into feng shui, this is the black rabbit, but it is again, a lunar influence over our lives because the rabbit itself, you know, thinks it can win the race, as the old story goes, and then it gets a little lazy and then it lets the tortoise win because it falls asleep.
Speaker C:So, so the, the negative detriment of a rabbit would be that it has too much hubris and, you know, gets a little lazy and gets sleepy and doesn't stay attentive and active.
Speaker C:So it's very different than a tiger year, which was incredibly active.
Speaker C:We are now going to something much more diplomatic.
Speaker C:I wouldn't passive, but the rabbit itself, when we enter this, you know, vibration, this frequency, let's say rabid people in Chinese astrology tend to not show so much.
Speaker C:You know, there's a lot more going on underneath that they don't show.
Speaker C:They're very easy to get along with.
Speaker C:They're quite sociable.
Speaker C:So it's a good year for networking.
Speaker C:It's a good year to be social.
Speaker C:It's a good year to come out.
Speaker C:It's not terribly deep.
Speaker C:Rabid people, I would have to say, they like to hide things, you know, so you don't really know what they're thinking.
Speaker C:And therefore I would be very careful.
Speaker C:But at the same time, the, the deeper mysteries of the moon, of course, is what I would explore this year.
Speaker C:I would go much more inward.
Speaker C:I would take care of myself, I would take care of my health.
Speaker C:I would definitely prioritize that.
Speaker C:It's very good for healers.
Speaker C:It's great for wellness to go to healers this year, to go to places that are spas and, you know, healing centers.
Speaker C:That's really.
Speaker C:It's time to take care of yourself.
Speaker C:You want to say anything to us about that?
Speaker B:You see, for me, I like to look in the past to see what the future brings, because everything comes in circles, in cycles, in waves, right?
Speaker B:And that in astrology, of course, is a common understanding that nothing really is new.
Speaker B:It just is interpreted by what the mindset of the global community is at this point.
Speaker B:See, to move a planet, we need everybody to move, or nothing moves.
Speaker B:In that sense, the.
Speaker B:If you look at the water rabbit specifically because it's an element within the sign.
Speaker B:Fire rabbits, water rabbits, fire tigers, earth tigers, and so on.
Speaker B:So the water rabbit, water is definitely a purifier, is a cleanser.
Speaker B:And what we will experience, and this already is, is that the more emotional suppression happens.
Speaker B:Despite being spiritual and working on things and knowing things and getting prepared and so on, there is this.
Speaker B:There is this element that has to break through eventually.
Speaker B:So it is a year where I see sometimes out of a scratch or out of a.
Speaker B:A little dot IT turns into a huge medical concept, for example, or one little financial decision, and it becomes this avalanche of issues.
Speaker B:So the water rapid represents what you can't avoid.
Speaker B:You can go to a certain degree, but you cannot avoid ultimately your own responsibility.
Speaker B:In other words, people come and say, look into my health.
Speaker B:And I tell them, please take care of this, but take care of that and look into this.
Speaker B:And there's a surgery announced.
Speaker B:But ultimately, there is this one personal element in your emotion that says, I'm sorry, even with this information, it's too late.
Speaker B:You have to break through something.
Speaker B:So the what?
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The water rabbit, of course, the rabbit is not a courageous animal in that sense.
Speaker B:You see it like security and safety to some degree.
Speaker B:It's also a year that represents denial.
Speaker B:Oh, it's fine.
Speaker B:Oh, it's good.
Speaker B:You know, let's fake it till we make it.
Speaker B:And, you know, then the big surprise comes.
Speaker B:But this is the idea.
Speaker B:You have to really listen in spirituality, specifically in between the lines, because the water rabbit makes a lot of things blurry, you know, but this is a year to where you will be tested in your courage, you know, good or bad.
Speaker B: , for example, if you look at: Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:All right, excuse me.
Speaker B:Now we have Elon Musk and his rockets.
Speaker B:Now we have the new space telescope, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Where every day we discover new exoplanets where we basically could escape, to which we have to at some point.
Speaker B: When you look at: Speaker B:I don't see it at all because I see that if you look at 63, a quarter million people marched for civil rights in the US I think JFK was killed in that year.
Speaker B:And Martin Luther King gave this big speech.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:You see, there's nothing rabid about it, but it is the rabbit.
Speaker B:What happens to a rabbit that is fed up?
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What happens to a rabbit when you're fed up?
Speaker B:You snap, right?
Speaker B: by the way, for example, are: Speaker B:See, it was also a year, I believe, when Clinton was impeached in his trial.
Speaker B:What is appropriate, what is not appropriate?
Speaker B:You see, he was a rabbit, right?
Speaker B:He was a rabbit.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Well, you know, a rabbit with a taste for willing assistance.
Speaker B:There's two, two, tango.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B: And then: Speaker B:It was one after the other.
Speaker B:They said, I'm out of here.
Speaker B:And the Iraq war ended.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:The rabbit for me here is a wake up.
Speaker B:It says to the society, wake up because the bunny looks cute and sweet and fluffy, but he's got bite.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:So I think obvious, what I say is when we look into astrology and especially Chinese astrology and compare it a little bit, we can look at years like repetitions if you want.
Speaker B:Certain elements, you know, will reappear in that sense.
Speaker B:So of course the water rabbit is important because it represents feelings, as Fossil says, and the lunar element.
Speaker B:And more than any other year, it is a spiritual year.
Speaker B:And numerologically, we have a seven year, which is also introspection.
Speaker B:So it is really about being confronted with the inner mirror, you know, and that's why F always says, and I agree, if you don't do the inner work, spiritual practice is basically just a hobby, you know, there's no difference between that and getting your, you know, getting your nails done.
Speaker B:You cannot remain superficial.
Speaker B:The, the, the bunny, as much as we want to take the right to fluff it up and hug it and, and, you know, if he says, I have enough now, he's gonna bite you.
Speaker B:And the bite is intense.
Speaker B:So I think that society wise, we're going again through a questioning of, of politics, of human rights, of gay rights, of women's rights.
Speaker B:Right now in Florida, you cannot mention the word black.
Speaker B:Like history.
Speaker B:See what I mean?
Speaker B:You know, so the question here for me is on a larger scale, and I think it will be a big theme in general in, in politics, especially People's politics as well.
Speaker B:How far can free speech go?
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, free speech, yes, but free speech, that says I. I close the door to something that happened.
Speaker B:And by not mentioning, not teaching it, it doesn't.
Speaker B:It doesn't exist.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:That is again, back to the cycle.
Speaker B:That is when a little scratch will turn into a big cancer.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:You see?
Speaker B:And no matter how you evolve it, you see, the lesson is in your internal system.
Speaker B:That is the idea.
Speaker B:So we're going to have a year where people will be very fed up and they will start snapping.
Speaker B:We were talking with Foster a little bit about the mass shootings in California now, which are interesting enough by Asian.
Speaker C:People on the Chinese New Year.
Speaker B:On the Chinese New Year.
Speaker C:It's a lot of them.
Speaker B:They're fed up.
Speaker B:They're fed up.
Speaker B:Let me kill you.
Speaker B:And you see how that feels?
Speaker B:You see eye for an eye, right?
Speaker B:So it was so specific.
Speaker B:And I said, I know exactly where this year is going.
Speaker B:When on the lunar year, the year of the rabbit, right?
Speaker B:They take me out the gun, I'm gonna go and shoot a couple of people.
Speaker B:That happens once and twice in three.
Speaker B:I mean, this is also know, almost normality in us, you know?
Speaker B:But again, I think we're going to have to question a lot.
Speaker B:Our rules, our laws, and how far we allow laws to protect the work.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:The thought, in that sense, Germany did it.
Speaker B:You know, to this day, you cannot be a Nazi.
Speaker B:You cannot be a fascist.
Speaker B:You cannot.
Speaker B:They don't even deal with, you know, they're just shutting it all down.
Speaker B:It's in our constitution in Germany, you know, we're never going to go back to war.
Speaker B:We can help, but we will not be dragged into it.
Speaker B:We will not again go down that route.
Speaker B:And so, yes, you can say whatever you want, but if it is against the human nature and a deterioration of opinion, if you want a deteriorated opinion, I think that's the way I want to say it's.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They're locking you up.
Speaker B:You see here where we are in us, you know, free speech.
Speaker B:Free.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Well, then something has to replace this.
Speaker B:And the rabbit represents this replacement.
Speaker B:Okay, you can fluff me up a little bit and feed me carrots, but I'm not human, and I don't.
Speaker B:I don't understand the human ways, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So do you feel it's very much a year of discernment and creating very healthy boundaries around us?
Speaker B:Yes, I think it's really necessary.
Speaker B:Like Foster always says, the rules you know, you cannot say, these are my rules.
Speaker B:I'm going to stick with them until today I die.
Speaker B:This ridiculous.
Speaker B:You're shifting, you're changing, you're evolving, hopefully.
Speaker B:And therefore rules have to be reevaluated.
Speaker C:Well, look at flooding.
Speaker C:You know, in a rabbit year, you will have floods.
Speaker C:You know, that's what happens.
Speaker C:As a predecessor to this year, California had terrible floods all over the world.
Speaker C:And now we have, you know, these tremendous rains that are still occurring here.
Speaker C:And on top of all the flooding is all the emotional, you know, have a huge emotional reaction.
Speaker C:You're talking about JFK's assassination, which was a country mourning.
Speaker C:You know, you have a tremendous flooding on that level of water.
Speaker C:When you have these kind of mass shootings and people not doing any kind of inner work and they're exteriorizing everything.
Speaker C:When the emotions, you know, are flooding their systems and they start taking a gun and shooting everybody in a dance studio, that's quite a thing.
Speaker C:I think there's also this idea of don't have any fun, don't enjoy it, don't enjoy the fertility, don't enjoy this matriarchy that's coming in this year.
Speaker C:Because matriarchy, when it starts to enter, when Pluto did the full circle and now that Pluto is bringing in a matriarchy after a thousand years, really, of patriarchy, that's going to be, I think, what you're talking about, like a woke culture or a waking up.
Speaker C:People are going to change tremendous amount of habits.
Speaker C:That means people who are still stuck in patriarchy are going to act out with the gun, with violence.
Speaker C:You know, they, they hid many things.
Speaker C:They made it very secretive.
Speaker C:What happened to JFK when he was shot.
Speaker C:They cover it up so that I can see a lot of that happening this year.
Speaker C:I think in a water year, it's going to be quite an eruption of underground emotional reactions to this emerging feminine quality that's entering the world.
Speaker B:Well, just, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, just yesterday or this morning, I think I read that an ice plate the size of.
Speaker B:Was it New York, England or London?
Speaker B:A massive piece just broke.
Speaker B:You see that, that, that's.
Speaker B:That water has to go somewhere.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:That's the idea.
Speaker B:Let me give for your, for your listeners and your audience, Elaine, a little insight how to, how to understand the year in general.
Speaker B:Because it's not just the water rabbit and astrology.
Speaker B:It is also the, the ascended frequency by which we're going through, because we are witnessing now transitions from exoplanets like Saturn, Pluto, Neptune into The next sign, which happens rare enough and it's very specific to be alive during these transitions.
Speaker B:Because once, you know, my Saturn moves into the next house, it stays there or Pluto, it stays there until, you know, the day I die, basically, it will not change.
Speaker B:So certain changes are one time changes, one time shifts.
Speaker B:We are in the shift now, but we're gonna only see that.
Speaker B:And the idea is that my guide said in, in that respect, when people come to you and they say, you know, am I ready?
Speaker B:Am I ready to do it like you did, right, over the years, listen, I would love to do something, but am I ready?
Speaker B:Should I be?
Speaker B:If you have to ask if you're ready, then you're not.
Speaker B:Because if you are ready, you're just going for it.
Speaker B:And that is what this year provides.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:It's this.
Speaker B:It's almost a little bit the idea of if I don't do it now, I'll never do it.
Speaker B:Which is true.
Speaker B:See, but the transitions of the exoplanets, I think are really crucial because, because when, you know, when a Jupiter moves every 12 years, a Saturn, every 28 years, a Pluto, what, 200 years or something, you know, a long, I mean, a long period.
Speaker B:It is one thing to be, to be born in that time period and then you experience the society in that sense.
Speaker B:But even from that point, numerologically, energetically, spiritually, you see, whenever planets shift so global, right?
Speaker B:We call these ascended circles in my, in my tradition, in my school, so it's called that whoever did the work ascends, whoever goes, ascends.
Speaker B:There's no way back in that sense.
Speaker B:So not everybody will do that or wants to do that or needs to do that, you see.
Speaker B:So it's important people of a spiritual nature not to try to convince and drag people into ascended states where they have no business being.
Speaker B:It sounds harsh, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:But I'm not going to make you run a marathon because I love it so much when I know that you're just not capable of running it and say, do me the favor and do it.
Speaker B:You will get hurt.
Speaker B:You see?
Speaker B:So again, and it's not about I'm going to be higher, you're going to be lower.
Speaker B:It's not that stuff, you know, I really recommend you guys listen to our last podcast, which is a channel, basically, and I think the.
Speaker B:Because I had to listen to it to hear what I said, you know, how that works with me and, you know, and for us, of course, the most appropriate questions and the Answer that.
Speaker B:I got out of it.
Speaker B:Or the, the main theme was, oh help me Foster.
Speaker B:It's the is.
Speaker B:It was the stop thinking in separation.
Speaker B:There is now the fifth dimension and the first dimension and the angels and the demons and God and the Goddess and all that stuff.
Speaker B:There is none of that, you see.
Speaker B:But the more we have been trained to systemic belief.
Speaker B:I, I can believe in this but not in that.
Speaker B:And I can believe in this, but not in that.
Speaker B:In Kabbalah we call it which is the, for me the place of all possibilities, you see.
Speaker B:And some people who enter this state of mind are one step away from ascension, which.
Speaker B:The next one is keto.
Speaker B:So you're on of.
Speaker B:Of your house, so to speak.
Speaker B:And you see, reaching that mountain, you know, that's the idea.
Speaker B:But Foster always says, and I, you know, and I'm always frustrated and I say to Foster, why did this not work?
Speaker B:And that not.
Speaker B:And he says, people don't do the inner work, they just rummage through it, they rush through it.
Speaker B:They want to be masters in five days and solve all their problems in a weekend.
Speaker B:Two weekends usually, you know, and everything over, you know, that's the idea.
Speaker B:That's why when we do these vials, it is nine in a season.
Speaker B:And basically the participant has a weekend to work with it and then they have the Q and A with him on Monday next.
Speaker B:And it's like, oh my God, it's like pushing one.
Speaker B:But that's exactly what it is.
Speaker B:It is to create an intensity in various forms of vibration.
Speaker B:Because the first video was about sex magic and the last video that we're not doing is about cities, which is the hermetic tradition in India, for example.
Speaker B:But there is no difference to it.
Speaker B:It, no matter how we call it, you see what I mean?
Speaker B:It's all one big push to get people into their own ascension.
Speaker B:Because I don't know what's going to happen once you ascend, you know, because it's so individual.
Speaker B:But as I said, you know, Aline time to become a teacher.
Speaker B:Aline time to create the voice.
Speaker B:Time to, you know, I don't know for how long we said that, but bless your heart, finally, finally, you know, this feels normal, right?
Speaker B:This feels normal.
Speaker B:You, that's what you should have done.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So now that you're in your ascending role.
Speaker A:There you are, you talking as well, how the.
Speaker A:The vimeos as well.
Speaker A:It's very much creating the energy of a mystery school as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker C:Giving people a lot of powers this year, you know, we Started with sex magic, where every time you have sex now you're creating powers, you're.
Speaker C:You're charging things with it, you're doing different things.
Speaker C:So you never waste an orgasm, you never waste masturbation, you never waste the sexual act.
Speaker C:It all becomes spiritual.
Speaker C:Now in higher tantra, then the last one now is even higher tantra.
Speaker C:We're going into larger rituals of tantra, but more than that, in between, we talked about love, Hawaiian love, the connection between your lower middle and higher selves, the understanding of aloha.
Speaker C:So we went from sex to love to the goetia, which was, I want people to work with spirits.
Speaker C:And there are cupidic spirits there.
Speaker C:You know, there's spirits that are full of love, and there are also other spirits that are quite harsh teachers.
Speaker C:But when you are a shaman or a witch or a.
Speaker C:Any person who all of a sudden wants to work with spirits for your own inner teachers, for your own guidance, for your own understanding of your own brain, when you put them all together, you're empowering people on a very high level.
Speaker C:What are they going to do with these powers?
Speaker C:That's why we move to cities.
Speaker C:What are you going to do when you're doing practices of non duality, like Crystal's always saying yes to everything and no separation and there's only oneness.
Speaker C:You are basically talking about the essence of yoga, the essence of what all of yoga's been teaching and India has been teaching for.
Speaker C:For a few thousand years.
Speaker C:So when we are in this particular state of union, whether it's orgasm over, because in orgasm you go into a void kind of state in which you are essentially connecting to the divinity.
Speaker C:And I wanted people, especially this year, to feel finally happier in their bodies, happier about sex, and much more pleasurable.
Speaker C:But it doesn't have to be a hard karma kind of life that it can also involve a great deal of pleasure.
Speaker C:And that's what it has come to me so far this year, this idea of we're embracing sex.
Speaker C:All my judgments around sexuality and yoga are finished now.
Speaker C:You know, I'm not saying to everybody to have sex.
Speaker C:I'm just saying that we're clearing out every kind of dogma, every kind of belief in the subconscious mind is here.
Speaker C:And that way we open up very clearly to spirit and to different spirits who teach us.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, sorry, excuse me.
Speaker A:I remember when you came back from your sacred tour in Egypt and the main teaching that you had there was.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So could you talk to us a little bit about that, please?
Speaker A:And obviously that's been very, very, that's been very high in all your podcasts as well, and especially the most recent one, which is incredible.
Speaker A:And you have to watch it, by the way.
Speaker B:You see, I think where guidance comes from, I speak only through, through my perspective because, you know, it's coming through my brain, but not my intelligence.
Speaker B:Because that stuff usually is, you know, when I listen to, to my own sessions, I'm like, that's not me.
Speaker B:You know, that's a little too an element higher of what I am interested in, even at this point, you know, from a human point.
Speaker B:So when perspectives come in, you know, and they're repeating and I'm paying attention.
Speaker B:The yes tribe.
Speaker B:I think in Egypt they used to call ever the yes tribe.
Speaker B:And it became, began a little bit with the idea we are the yes tribe.
Speaker B:We are not saying no ever.
Speaker B:On, on the other side.
Speaker B:So called other side.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But the concept was simply if you say yes.
Speaker B:If you say yes.
Speaker B:And that doesn't mean I say yes to an abusive person.
Speaker B:I say yes, you are an abusive person.
Speaker B:And I take the right.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Because the replacement of the word karma is the word.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Karma in my tradition and in my experience especially has always been described as and been used and misused by people who love their drama.
Speaker B:Drama loves an audience.
Speaker B:It's one of our other podcast titles.
Speaker B:You know, it's my karma to be with this man.
Speaker B:He has to do something, right.
Speaker B:It's usually a woman who make this.
Speaker B:And then also, you know, occasionally I have to carry the karma of my family.
Speaker B:Again, I don't say it's wrong because there are elements of it and my guides.
Speaker B:At some point, the best way to dissolve this karma is to say yes to it.
Speaker B:Yes, I acknowledge it.
Speaker B:Yes, I'm responsible for my part of it, not for every.
Speaker B:Yes, I am.
Speaker B:I'm okay with where I am.
Speaker B:Yes, I want to change my body, but I will not love it when it's changed.
Speaker B:But I say yes to what is.
Speaker B:In other words, you cannot transform your health if you, if you say, oh, now it's crap, but once it's better, then I'm gonna like it.
Speaker B:You have to get out of this limitations and segmenting of emotions.
Speaker B:And so the word yes sounds weird, but it is really more of a.
Speaker B:A frequency more than anything else.
Speaker B:A frequency that is a is applied that says, yes, I know, that's what wakes me up.
Speaker B:Being woke means to know that you have contributed on some level to the experience you have.
Speaker B:There is no other Way, that's law.
Speaker B:I don't say, people say, oh yeah, that would be great to be guest up in a chamber in Auschwitz.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I want.
Speaker B:Of course not.
Speaker B:Of course not.
Speaker B:You say, but when you end up in a situation as dramatic and you say, yes, something in me must have contributed to this because this is not just a little personal experience.
Speaker B:This is a global experience.
Speaker B:This is, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:It is, you see, in that sense, let's dramatize a bit.
Speaker B:Genocides, the greatest, the biggest genocide happened from Africans to Africans, you know, if you want genocides, that's where it happened.
Speaker B:Africans, you know, killed Africa.
Speaker B:So the whole Jewish thing and the whole holocaust and my God, what happened to, to, to the Mexicans and to, to the Native Americans, for Christ's sake?
Speaker B:And you know what I mean, we find this everywhere.
Speaker B:But look at a society like Japan, for example, you see, who are brutes.
Speaker B:I mean that was a really warrior Mars kind of country.
Speaker B:And look at the refinement of it.
Speaker B:I don't say they don't have problems, but look how they chose to say, yes, we are responsible for all this.
Speaker B:Yes, we want to get better, yes, we want rules and yes, we agree to all apply these rules.
Speaker B:They apply to everybody.
Speaker B:In other words, you're not better than me.
Speaker B:And this doesn't make you more entitled to this.
Speaker B:It's the opposite of America, you know, where people call them manager because they don't like the weather.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, I mean it's amazing to me, the entitlement is mind blowing to me, I have to tell you.
Speaker B:And, and yet my guide always says this is a yes world.
Speaker B:No one ever was pushed into this planet and forced to incarnate.
Speaker B:Everyone who is here said yes.
Speaker B:And so for us, that's guidance for us.
Speaker B:If everybody could say for one second, yes, I agree with what I chose, otherwise I would have chosen would transform the whole consciousness of this planet.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:So the idea of the yes is a form of agreement, right?
Speaker B:It's an agreement and an acknowledgment, a woke acknowledgement that we are here on this planet to learn to manipulate energy.
Speaker B:And that's what all the, you know, ETS and extraterrestrials and other civilizations, not all, but a lot have ahead of us.
Speaker B:You know, they, they're doing it already.
Speaker B:See, and that is the idea.
Speaker B:Breaking through a wall of social and religious manipulation.
Speaker B:You cannot, you cannot, you cannot.
Speaker B:And of course, you know, women are, you know, on the lowest level of the food chain, so to speak, you know, unless they have some value.
Speaker B:So like Foster says, this is a time of the matriarchy, see?
Speaker B:And even women don't do everything, right, you see, that's the idea.
Speaker B:So now we want female leaders and it goes to crap, right?
Speaker B:Or we have Jacinda, the prime Minister of New Zealand, who did a great job, but she's being.
Speaker B:You seen, the misogyny in our societies is mind blowing.
Speaker B:I read, you know, with Foster, sometimes we talk over breakfast and lunch, you know, when we have a little meal.
Speaker B:I said, can you imagine how many people are.
Speaker B:Because Madonna is now going on tour, right?
Speaker B:The 40 year tour and so on.
Speaker B:So everybody calls it the Broken Hip tour.
Speaker B:Right, The Broken Hip Tour.
Speaker B:And I thought the mis.
Speaker B:And this is woman.
Speaker B:The misogyny that comes from women is the most dangerous.
Speaker B:A woman who criticizes another successful woman, especially is.
Speaker B:Can't.
Speaker B:Will never be a friend of another woman.
Speaker B:Never, never.
Speaker B:See, they usually are infected by their husbands and their partners and their fathers.
Speaker B:They think very.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:And all I think is, oh, God, do better, do better.
Speaker B:You see, because we're talking about somebody who achieved something with.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I have to say, I do admire her, you know, as a person.
Speaker B:Madonna, I think what you did is amazing.
Speaker B:Amazing.
Speaker B:So the last thing she needs is snide comments at this point.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Because the ground of these comments is misogyny.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker B:It's like Christians, you know, or Satanists.
Speaker B:There's a difference.
Speaker B:They're all angry.
Speaker B:They have in common.
Speaker B:They're all angry about something.
Speaker B:Satanists are like angry Christians.
Speaker B:And angry Christians are basically just entitled, you know, consumers of capitalism, nothing else.
Speaker B:What do you guys want?
Speaker B:We have to get back to a rabbit, mind.
Speaker B:You see, we cannot just fluff up a pillow and say, oh, it's all good.
Speaker B:So the first thing that we, me and Foster agreed on is let's say yes to something.
Speaker B:Let's say yes to it, you know, because it's easy to go back and say, oh, God, we shouldn't have done this.
Speaker B:We shouldn't have done that.
Speaker B:If we did this.
Speaker B:And if we did, you see, I can't stand that at all.
Speaker B:So, yes, we agreed to do this.
Speaker B:We agreed to move, we agreed to change, we agreed to get on.
Speaker B:We agreed to do something, you see, and that is the opposite of karma.
Speaker B:I hope that makes sense.
Speaker B:But that is what it is.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:It really does.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:And it's interesting, you mentioning About Satanists.
Speaker A:Because I posted something the other day and it was about reset with a new moon and I was guiding through a process and I shared it with the world.
Speaker A:And it's really interesting you say about misogyny of women because a woman wrote on there something about.
Speaker A:And I didn't know what this was.
Speaker A:I don't know if you've heard this expression.
Speaker A:Here's your wig, sir.
Speaker A:I had to look it up.
Speaker A:I had no idea what it meant.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a German word for yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And then somebody.
Speaker A:And then another woman put Satanist.
Speaker A:Okay, thanks very much.
Speaker A:But it was really interesting because I could have.
Speaker A:And because of the.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Because of all the amazing teachings with you, I just said yes.
Speaker A:And that was okay.
Speaker A:That was there.
Speaker A:That was their.
Speaker A:Entitled, their opinion.
Speaker A:But I don't have to take that on.
Speaker A:And I'm going to continue saying yes to what I'm doing, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly what it is.
Speaker B:You know, I don't know, Foster, how do you deal with this?
Speaker C:But I'm having an experience this year of fertility of the rabbit.
Speaker C:That's why I'm talking about sexuality.
Speaker C:Because if you're looking into anything about rabbits, they multiply.
Speaker C:And so I'm also looking at why do women have to get married?
Speaker C:Why do they have to have babies?
Speaker C:This fascination now with only the lower development.
Speaker C:You just have babies.
Speaker C:This is your purpose.
Speaker C:When I am surrounded, 50% of everybody who comes to us do not want to have children, want to be independent.
Speaker C:This life, you know, even if they have moments of I wish I had a.
Speaker C:Or I wish I had a partner or I wish I had somebody.
Speaker C:Actually, many, many women are choosing not to have that and not to be told that they have to have a baby and they have to have a husband.
Speaker C:So then if you're not going to have all those things, what else do you want?
Speaker C:And that's when I started to go into this fertility idea.
Speaker C:What about the.
Speaker C:The idea that all this universe is created by whatever.
Speaker C:In India, it's Shiva and Shakti, you know, and their union.
Speaker C:What if it's this union inside of us that is part of our ascension?
Speaker C:Maybe we have to look at things very, very differently.
Speaker C:When I see somebody saying that you're a sadist, I mean, it's a huge judgment.
Speaker C:And it comes back to them, unfortunately, because you're dredging up your shadow.
Speaker C:You're basically saying that you can't accept some part of yourself.
Speaker C:And now you're going to project it onto me and you're going to make me wrong for what's going on inside of you, in your subconscious mind for so many, whatever.
Speaker C:A century of putting down people.
Speaker C:Because if I get into Satanism, you could say healers are Satanists.
Speaker C:Everybody who does healing work, everybody who's been doing birthing babies and all sorts of things, you know, what we call, you know, the women who always helped in a person's life spiritually, you could say everything spiritual then is Satanism.
Speaker C:And if you're doing that, you're creating a huge shadow.
Speaker C:And that particular shadow you're sitting on top of and it will erupt eventually.
Speaker C:Whether in the society you're going to be confronted by your shadow because there's something going on when you, when you raise the frequency of a planet, you're forced to look at your own projections.
Speaker C:You're seeing what is your illusion, what is your Maya.
Speaker C:And it hits you right in the face and everybody notices it.
Speaker C:Now when I'm around young people and somebody says, oh, you're a Satanist.
Speaker C:Everybody turns around like, well, who are you to talk kind of, you know, judgmental Christian, are you?
Speaker C:Do we really need you in this next century?
Speaker C:That's what kids say, especially to me.
Speaker C:Or they say you to put down transgender.
Speaker C:You know, Ron DeSantos, who do you think you are?
Speaker C:Not allowing to be black people to have their own kind of educational system just because you're a racist and anti gay, like a Bolsonaro.
Speaker C:You know, a lot of us have had enough of that.
Speaker C:Not that we're screaming liberals or something, but really enough is enough.
Speaker C:This all involves sexuality and the right of a person over their body.
Speaker C:You know, they tried to get rid of all abortion rights in us and now we have a huge conflict about that.
Speaker C:So, so when do we, are we allowed to have the pleasure in our bodies?
Speaker C:When are we allowed to finally accept people as they are and accept this world is, and see it clearly as it is, that all of it is divine and we can go off, you know, we can be imbalanced in our subconscious mind and have all sorts of perversions and other things that we do have to face within ourselves because they will be projected out.
Speaker C:They will eventually come to the surface.
Speaker C:So when somebody calls me a Satanist, I think, what are they hiding?
Speaker C:What kind of weird are they hiding about women, gay people, about everything in life and, and what kind of a limited life is that?
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it's.
Speaker B:Absolutely, I agree.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:The people who scream in politics, anti gay are being caught usually with hookers.
Speaker B:Gay hookers, gay massage, friends, gay assistance, you know, the assistance and so on, you know, and that is something that is really.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's also funny how.
Speaker B:And I want, I want your.
Speaker B:I want your listeners to also understand, you know, if you're a Christian or a Muslim or a Buddhist, you know, you should not comment on other faiths, you know, because it is inherited in their religion.
Speaker B:Go from door to door and praise the Lord, you know, the word of Jesus Christ.
Speaker B:Who invited you?
Speaker B:This is for me, I think, something where I'm surprised that we don't have more casualty murders here because, you know, I would shoot somebody in the face if they would come with that.
Speaker B:You know, I didn't invite this.
Speaker B:People say very often, why are you so much into witchcraft or Wicca or paganism?
Speaker B:Well, it's the only religion in the world that has never, you know, declared war in the name of God.
Speaker B:It's the only one, you see.
Speaker B:And if you read the Bible and I did 28 versions of it, that's how many there are.
Speaker B:Because, you know, the manipulation goes on.
Speaker B:You know, I don't want to be part of that religion.
Speaker B:It's not love.
Speaker B:It's love.
Speaker B:As long you shut up and don't do nothing and don't question anything and just follow me, me, me and me, or else I'm sending you down the fires of the pit of hell for 17,000 millennia.
Speaker B:But I love you.
Speaker B:You see, that is to me, that is total to me.
Speaker B:And I am an occultist.
Speaker B:An occultist is somebody who studies the religion.
Speaker B:That's what it means.
Speaker B:Every Christian is an occultist.
Speaker B:Because when you read the Bible, that's what occultismos means.
Speaker B:It means to read and study the religion.
Speaker B:You know, that's, you know, a little culture for all you.
Speaker B:For, you know, because, you know, I love, I love this country, I have to tell you, but Americans think frozen yogurt is culture.
Speaker B:Trust me, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:You know, I think Olive Garden is a restaurant.
Speaker C:So about what's hidden.
Speaker C:So we're also looking, what is behind the Bible?
Speaker C:What is the Sumerian text behind?
Speaker C:That is the older text from Babylon.
Speaker C:And we keep going further back now to get to some semblance of the truth.
Speaker B:Pre Abrahamic, you see.
Speaker B:Pre Abrahamic, the religion of Ashera, the mother God, Sopia, Ashera, he Isis, you know, there was a mother God as a principal supreme divinity as well as the F. What I want to say is, and people think, me personally, that I'm against Christians and I'm not.
Speaker B:I Just am surprised that no one.
Speaker B:Well, there's a lot of younger people involved.
Speaker B:Christians for example, Catholics especially.
Speaker B:And they question the scriptures.
Speaker B:And that is to me the most exciting thing.
Speaker B:You see that is this is a woke Catholic.
Speaker B:A woke.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Somebody who says, wait a minute, that doesn't say.
Speaker B:It doesn't say this at all.
Speaker B:This is not mentioned at all.
Speaker B:This is not even part of this at all.
Speaker B:There are people who are almost in an academic way really confronting the scriptures and say, you know, no God would talk like this.
Speaker B:You know, no God would talk like this in that sense, you see.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And the second thing is when a religion excludes women, okay, People think Buddhism is such a lot.
Speaker B:Come on, give me a break.
Speaker B:Is patriarchal to the bone.
Speaker B:Patriarchal to the bone.
Speaker B:Give me a break, okay?
Speaker B:That's the idea.
Speaker B:Pope.
Speaker C:Brahmanic India is caste system.
Speaker C:You know, only mantra was.
Speaker C:Was going through the Castism and treating women equally.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:And you can repress a natural state of balance as long as.
Speaker B:Because it's not about now the matrix, you will take over.
Speaker B:And basically, you know, it's the same.
Speaker B:Like white people in America are so afraid that now black people with power could spin the wheel against them.
Speaker B:You know, now they have power, you know, the Beyonce's and the Jay Z's and the Kanye's of the.
Speaker B:Of the world.
Speaker B:Now they're going to mobilize against us.
Speaker B:Well, you know, the key is balance.
Speaker B:Male, female, electric, magnetic.
Speaker B:We live in the polarity.
Speaker B:And the key is to learn to be in the balance of the polarity.
Speaker B:I don't say there's no God.
Speaker B:I believe in God, of course I do.
Speaker B:But by no means as a vindictive, judgmental, you know, you know, leader of politics.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Let's not forget with Fossil we had a lot of discussions about this over the last two, three years.
Speaker B:You know, with COVID especially, a lot of channeling happened.
Speaker B:Channeling happened, okay?
Speaker B:Which is because the channeling has a very specific quality and training in its core.
Speaker B:And if you don't have this, I can see it.
Speaker B:Bless your heart, what comes through.
Speaker B:But you know, it comes from a very different perspective.
Speaker B:Trust me, it takes a piece of your body.
Speaker B:Whenever I channel, I need, I need time to recover, okay?
Speaker B:But energy takes care of your body.
Speaker B:But the idea is that in, in a.
Speaker B:We talked with Fossil, but I said, what is this?
Speaker B:Look at how much political propaganda is now in channels.
Speaker B:This, the.
Speaker B:The masters of, what was it, Orion come through and they Say tr.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:And so on and so on.
Speaker B:What the hell is this?
Speaker B:Or he would show me these three hour videos that he would.
Speaker B:People would send.
Speaker B:And at the very end it was a propaganda video for the Republican party to please support Trump because he's the Messiah.
Speaker B:You see, that is the problem.
Speaker B:I have Aline independent from Foster, because I'm a very separate person in this whole thing.
Speaker B:I'm not a shaman.
Speaker B:I came in as a, as an additional teacher, but I come also from a hermetic background.
Speaker B:You know, for us it's not common to expose ourselves to such a degree.
Speaker B:You see, we're more behind the scenes people.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And one reason is when I see this crap, really this crap, and I think that these people are frauds, they're liars, they're frauds and they are basically just scammers.
Speaker B:Because at the end, by the way, it's always about money, guarantee about money, Send me money, the world will end.
Speaker B:Send me money.
Speaker B:Well, what do you need money if the world ends?
Speaker B:You know, there was this guy in New York who had a whole channel about the apocalypse which was like December sent money and people.
Speaker B:Why is it, I mean, are there so many demented people in the world?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:You also have to be careful about harvesting because people want a lot of energy by getting attention.
Speaker C:Because now we have social media, people need attention.
Speaker C:Attention to harvest their viewers eventually.
Speaker C:I have to say, if that's not my intention to harvest viewers, if it's my intention actually to give back, that's a very different social media than just me and give me attention.
Speaker C:And I take that attention as power and I use it in my life for what, I don't know.
Speaker C:Where is it being redirected?
Speaker C:Is it being really directed to something other than materialism?
Speaker C:We have to ask ourselves that with social media.
Speaker C:You know, people always ask me, how could you move to Las Vegas?
Speaker C:A shaman in Las Vegas, Very funny.
Speaker C:But we came here and it's actually quite lovely to be around.
Speaker C:You know, I go to the gym, it's 60% African Americans, you know, and Hispanic and full of Chinese, Asian and everything.
Speaker B:And it was full in the.
Speaker C:You have the whole world and you enjoy it.
Speaker B:It's a relaxing, you know, because we after COVET and after 20, by the way, exactly the same line.
Speaker B:How can you be a shaman live in Beverly Hills?
Speaker B:I heard exactly the same line.
Speaker B:And these are people who live in some council flats in London, basically, you know, pay for them.
Speaker B:But here I am being judged on the other side of the planet.
Speaker B:You know, it's amazing to me, it's amazing, right?
Speaker B:It's really amazing.
Speaker B:But the thing is, the first, I have to say, after LA and during COVID and I said, you know, let's see where we're going here.
Speaker B:And it was all about transition.
Speaker B:So I was sure I'm not going to stay in one place for too long.
Speaker B:And we went to Palm Springs, Indian Wells, which is, you know, all Palm Springs area.
Speaker C:Very unbelievable.
Speaker B:And we had this impression it's to be this wonderful gay liberal, you know, wonderful place.
Speaker B:You know, I ended up in Magaland.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:But this is what it is.
Speaker B:It was quite maga.
Speaker B:It was all magas.
Speaker B:I cannot, I mean, of course they were very nice to us because I'm, you know, blue eyed and white, right?
Speaker B:I mean, Foster also passes it white, but very, I'm telling you, it was white.
Speaker B:It was judgmental.
Speaker B:There was a lot of Trump flags around.
Speaker B:And I thought, where the hell have we ended up here?
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:So I said to him, listen, this can't be.
Speaker B:This can't be it.
Speaker B:Beautiful house, great place, wonderful.
Speaker B:I mean, it was a glorified old folks home, you know, it's.
Speaker B:That's, it's really pretty, but it was quite white.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:And if you have racist gay people, I thought, that can't be it.
Speaker B:This can't be it.
Speaker B:I said, I need, I need the world the way I live it, with all colors and all races and all know.
Speaker C:And we came to Vegas, all political views, everything.
Speaker B:And funny enough, we came here and to my surprise, it's quite comfortable to be here.
Speaker B:And as Foster says, I have.
Speaker B:I met more black people in the last five years, you know, you see, that's the idea.
Speaker B:So movement is important.
Speaker B:I think moving forward is important, you know, and, and progress is important in that sense.
Speaker B:But when we look at, when we look at, you know, I think that moving forward is a form of nurturing yourself.
Speaker B:You know, I think nature, nature will nurture you whenever you connect with nature.
Speaker B:Now, I'm not the shaman, but when you connect with nature and my guide said, I think in the channel, trees are psychic.
Speaker B:So you want to develop psychic energy, you need to connect with trees, which I thought it makes total sense, you see, because they're interconnected, you know, interconnected.
Speaker B:And I think that moving forward, leaving, arriving, shifting, changing is not nature.
Speaker B:And I think the.
Speaker B:That is our nature to change.
Speaker B:And the acting on the change is a form of nurturing, you see, that's the idea So I think that nurturing has a very big value here.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker B:It's the movement, it's the doing, that's the nurture.
Speaker A:For me, that was something I, I was wishing to talk to you about as well.
Speaker A:About.
Speaker A:Well, my, my religion, if you like, is nature.
Speaker A:So I adore being in nature.
Speaker A:And more and more I feel that especially with the creativity you mentioned about rabbits.
Speaker A:I'm surrounded by rabbits here and it's very much, it feels very much.
Speaker A:We're connecting more with Gaia.
Speaker A:So how do we connect more with, to speak to this is.
Speaker A:How do we connect more with, with crystals, with plants, with animals?
Speaker A:How, how do we go, how do we go about that when it's one of the things when you know that there's people saying, well, that's a load of rubbish.
Speaker A:For example.
Speaker A:So getting past that and believing and feeling and going into nature and hugging trees and.
Speaker C:Yeah, when you go into matriarchy, especially now when we're going into the feminine based understanding, that automatically you love animals.
Speaker C:It's the beginning of the consciousness of animals, how we treat animals, whether, you know, do we want to eat animals, how can we do it in quite a new way, you know, to honor the spirit of an animal.
Speaker C:We're turning back to that now and I think a great deal of people are becoming psychic through their pets because they care about their pets, they fall in love with them like their children.
Speaker C:And then they start to say, I don't know what's going on with my pet and the vet can't quite get it.
Speaker C:So then they go to somebody who can speak, you know, interspecies communication with an animal.
Speaker C:We are surrounded by people, whether they're in Singapore, whether they're in Germany, that are animal communicators and they're really quite serious.
Speaker C:They're very psychic.
Speaker C:And they're also love animals and they teach love, they teach unconditional love.
Speaker C:And this is the best way beyond religions, beyond all the divisions and separations to get people to finally understand spiritual principles through their animals.
Speaker C:And I think that's a wonderful plus.
Speaker C:You're talking about the water rabbit.
Speaker C:So you need to go to rivers this year, you need to go to lakes, you need to go to brooks, you need to go to bodies of ocean to purify, to cleanse yourself.
Speaker C:Because water is purification.
Speaker C:And when you're around a certain amount of negative ions, when you're waking up early in the morning, you know, and getting these ions or walking near water with these ions, when you meditate, it's much more powerful.
Speaker C:And you know, all the stuff that we get during the day, everybody's opinions, all the ways our auras interact with other people.
Speaker C:So we get too much negativity, you know, glomming on.
Speaker C:You need to take baths when you get home, you know, or you need to take a shower, you need to get it off you.
Speaker C:That's water.
Speaker C:Water always soothing, cooling it down when you're too hot headed, you know.
Speaker C:That's why we, we had that experience, remember in, in Los Angeles.
Speaker C:Our whole garden got filled with snails because it was so hot.
Speaker C:And the snails had to cool down the plants.
Speaker C:So instead of getting rid of them, we just embrace the snail with his little home.
Speaker C:And once we did that, once everything cooled down and we understand we were too hot, we had, you know, we had to cool down our own inflammations, everything, all the snails left overnight.
Speaker B:You know, let me, let me say from a hermetic point, because the way you asked is how can we connect more with which I learned quite early, and this is how you understand it now, that nature will adopt a way of communicating with us because it's easier for an animal to speak to you than a human.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Because the animal or the plant or the crystal is not filtered with subconscious imprints, subconscious stuff.
Speaker B:There is no, you know, there is no tree that says, you know, I'm happy, but you know, my parents left me.
Speaker B:There is no such a thing.
Speaker B:Or the rabbit that says, or the, the, the, the cat that says, I wonder where my mother is.
Speaker B:It doesn't exist because in nature there is a.
Speaker B:The, the tiger has the pup.
Speaker B:The pup stays with the tiger for about six, seven, eight months, I think.
Speaker B:And then she's gone overnight and never returns, you see?
Speaker B:And that is what nature does.
Speaker B:Always progressing and knowing when it's done.
Speaker B:Humans who have to buy our children apartments and cars and pay for their education and you know, and be loving and forgiving and all that crap, you know, that's the idea.
Speaker B:So again, this is unnatural, but interesting.
Speaker B:Let me say something because I know that you have cats.
Speaker B:The thing is, cats, for example, you know, didn't get domesticated per se because look, they're very individual, right?
Speaker B:Dogs, by the way, did not get domesticated.
Speaker B:They just vibed with humans like them stuck around and started to learn to communicate in a human emotional way because the larynx doesn't develop speech in that sense.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:But don't we have parrots who can literally, you know what I mean, who speak better English than most English people, right?
Speaker B:You know, and.
Speaker B:And you're surprised.
Speaker B:But what happens here is nature speaks to us because nature learns our ways.
Speaker B:And a cat, for example, you know, the meowing of a cat and a catch talks to you.
Speaker B:That's not natural to a cat.
Speaker B:They don't do this in nature.
Speaker B:You will never see a panther going, I'm.
Speaker B:You know, it's just not happening.
Speaker B:Because obviously, if it's wild, it's not around people, right?
Speaker B:But it kept stuck around, adapted to you and started to mimicking what you do.
Speaker B:Well, you know, she's opening her mouth and something comes out.
Speaker B:So I'm going to do the same thing.
Speaker B:So they're replicating movement and sound to convey their emotion.
Speaker B:But the language of nature is purely emotional, of course.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:So as a side effect.
Speaker B:You understand what I mean, Alen?
Speaker B:From a side effect, you cannot not.
Speaker B:I knew a woman, said all that crystal stuff is hoo hoo.
Speaker B:But she was wearing diamonds rings.
Speaker B:I'm like, okay.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:And she said, I gotta have this malachite.
Speaker B:That malachite.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:But I don't believe in it.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:The thing is, we don't buy crystals.
Speaker B:They choose us.
Speaker B:They choose us.
Speaker B:They come to us.
Speaker B:Plants come to us.
Speaker B:The same with an animal.
Speaker B:How often, you know, we have a ring on our door, which is, you know, that ring doorbell.
Speaker B:But suddenly also, you're connected to every ring doorbell in America, basically, or in your neighborhood.
Speaker B:So three times an hour, I lost my dog, My parrot flew away.
Speaker B:Look for my cat, please.
Speaker B:Look for Buffy, please.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Animals help us to interconnect with our own species.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so why would a dog leave or run away or do this?
Speaker B:To make you talk to another human being for more than just, where's my money?
Speaker B:Where's my work?
Speaker B:I'm tired and I'm hungry to go beyond that, you see?
Speaker B:So that helping.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Nature is a purely emotional consciousness in that sense.
Speaker B:But it doesn't have vocal cords in that sense.
Speaker B:So the cat comes and says, oh, nice people, you know?
Speaker B:And when they come and with cats, when they do this, right?
Speaker B:And they.
Speaker B:They snuggle on you.
Speaker B:They don't snuggle.
Speaker B:They mark you mine.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:It's like peeing on you.
Speaker B:No, just.
Speaker B:We don't like the peeing.
Speaker B:So they snuggle and mark you, basically.
Speaker B:But every kind of talking.
Speaker B:And some dogs have that too, like huskies, right, who are talking.
Speaker B:They basically say, I'm Going to send you my emotion to tell you how I feel.
Speaker B:But I'm going to mimic your vocal cords, so to speak.
Speaker B:You see.
Speaker B:So, you know, some of us are of course, very loving, and you ask how can we communicate with nature?
Speaker B:You have to love nature.
Speaker A:Yes, yeah.
Speaker B:You have to love nature.
Speaker B:From the bee to the mouse to the rat, the mosquito to the piranha to the crocodile.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:It's not just, I love the dog, but that thing.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:See, that's the idea.
Speaker B:So when you see the purpose of a mosquito, if you see the purpose of a bee, you know, without bees, we would basically eat each other.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You see, and it is this network that we have of consciousness.
Speaker B:And when you love animals and we think they're all like, cuckoo, like the tree huggers, right?
Speaker B:Like, what's wrong with them?
Speaker B:But it is this unconditional love that we show nature, and that is what helps us communicate.
Speaker B:And that is what develops with animals healing abilities and with trees, psychic abilities.
Speaker A:And then also telepathy, would you say?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:You see, why.
Speaker B:Why does a cat rarely, to communicate, sit.
Speaker B:Sits on your third eye, you know, it always goes on the belly.
Speaker B:Belly or the.
Speaker B:The lap.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because the communication, the intercommunication of telepathy happens to the second chakra, not the third eye.
Speaker B:Here we get it, here we see it.
Speaker B:But it's not like we're getting.
Speaker B:Otherwise a cat would sit here all day or a dog would just put his butt here.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker C:Independence.
Speaker C:It teaches sensuality.
Speaker C:Yeah, it always teaches more of a feminine way.
Speaker C:So that kind of independent, you know, femininity.
Speaker C:I go out when I want to, you know, I do what I want to do.
Speaker C:I take care of myself.
Speaker C:It's something that everybody needs to learn.
Speaker C:This is when cats really come to us.
Speaker C:But they specifically like temples.
Speaker C:They like houses that are like temples, like energy, the astral world.
Speaker C:Because they're always protecting their owners and seeing things in the astral, you know, reminding us that there's much more than the physical world.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then when we get into dogs with loyalty, when people have lost their loyalty to each other, when children go away and are not loyal, then, you know, you get very close to a dog because this is the noble qualities.
Speaker C:So the dogs from, you know, in its most wild form is the wolf.
Speaker C:When you need to find your wild soul, you need to.
Speaker C:You go to the origin of dogs.
Speaker C:And if you want to find your origins, your.
Speaker C:Your true self in.
Speaker C:In the wild, like a jaguar or a Panther, your true nature, that's your wild self that you should never lose contact with to the point of the actual dog next to you, because they will teach you that how you approach a dog, or how you approach nature, or how you approach any plant, any tree, all the plants talk to each other.
Speaker C:All the trees connected under the soil for, for sure, but they have a mass communication all day long in which how you are to a tree tells all the other trees how you are to a plant.
Speaker C:You know, it starts to communicate how you are to animals.
Speaker C:They tell all the other animals.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker C:Then you are accepted.
Speaker C:This is a thing in shamanism, when you go into the rainforest and if the forest is very, very loud and all of a sudden it quiets down and it's quiet, it means you're not really accepted, you're not part of the forest.
Speaker C:So eventually in shamanism, you train yourself enough that you're part of the forest, that you're communicating with everything, that you're in a telepathy and everything is alive.
Speaker C:And then you walk into the forest and it just continues, it lets it be part of all its sounds.
Speaker C:Welcome to you.
Speaker C:But it doesn't do it in the beginning.
Speaker C:It doesn't do it for normal people.
Speaker C:And that is the profound spirituality all around us, the ability to have telepathy and communicate with all of life and respect, respect each other.
Speaker C:They teach us exactly how to live here.
Speaker C:This is the way of balance.
Speaker C:And human beings can get very way off balance.
Speaker C:They don't balance the elements in themselves, they don't balance their, their natures, and they go very, very off.
Speaker C:And then comes bizarre opinions, dogmas, even religious ideas that are fanatical and too overzealous.
Speaker C:And then you have to stop and question, you know, where is the origin of this in their subconscious mind.
Speaker C:Why am I listening to their shadow?
Speaker C:You don't need to listen to it.
Speaker C:You have a choice now, really, especially with Internet and social media and the networking.
Speaker C:You, you don't have to listen to people's, you know, bald opinions that have nothing to do with you.
Speaker C:And yeah, you want to include them in your life.
Speaker C:And I think this is the beauty of what we're living.
Speaker C:We're making choices now.
Speaker C:This I don't want to be associated with.
Speaker C:This I don't want to be associated with.
Speaker C:But I'm going to live the way I want to live.
Speaker C:That I feel, you know, animals are teaching me, plants are teaching me, and what I feel inside, I start to follow whatever my soul.
Speaker C:Because your soul is what is Your heart is what's communicating with nature, it's what's communicating with, with animals.
Speaker C:I mean, Christos is about higher mind development.
Speaker C:His purpose is the development of the mind really.
Speaker C:It's quite a high mental.
Speaker C:But he has a very sensitive feeling, emotional side.
Speaker C:So he does both developments.
Speaker C:And it's like having knowledge without wisdom.
Speaker C:If you don't have wisdom, if you don't feel it, you're not going to have wisdom.
Speaker C:And they have to be, you know, built at the same time.
Speaker C:You can't have one without the other.
Speaker C:Unless you're too imbalanced, right?
Speaker C:I mean, vicious.
Speaker C:You've always taught about the balance of the elements, which is the shamanic idea.
Speaker C:If you're out of balance in one element, you know, and you must go into fire, earth, air, water, all the different aspects of yourself, like in Chinese medicine, like in many things.
Speaker C:If you're in balance with these, the elements, many things happen.
Speaker B:Well, the thing is also Aline, what means balance of elements?
Speaker B:Because people are trained also in our field or stimulated to think in a certain way, which is get rid of something.
Speaker B:When you get rid of something, that you're going to be in balance because then, you know, and exactly the opposite happens.
Speaker B:Because when you cut off the foot from your leg because there's something off, you're not going to run a marathon.
Speaker B:See what I mean?
Speaker B:Or in a less dramatic way, if I try to overcome something and I keep thinking about what bothers me, there's going to be a gap between your emotion and your thoughts.
Speaker B:See, that's the idea.
Speaker B:Let me give you an example of how I would approach this as a, as a practice, as a daily practice, you know, because we can't prevent it.
Speaker B:We're getting through stuff.
Speaker B:I mean, that's just life, you know, and we're having phones with us over, asking to be disrupted and distracted.
Speaker B:When I, I remember when I was in music a long, long time ago and in production, we would work on a track and it just wouldn't come together.
Speaker B:And usually I was a guy who said, we're going to stick with it until it's finished.
Speaker B:Because, you know, deadline, deadline studios are expensive.
Speaker B:And I had a producer who said, let's put it aside, do something else.
Speaker B:And then we returned to that other track later and there was a solution.
Speaker B:And that is balance.
Speaker B:That is balance.
Speaker B:So when I'm an obsessive, self absorbed, melancholic, I don't say get rid of these elements, I say acknowledge them, say yes to them, and change or refocus your thought on what is the balance, without the need to think that in order to feel the balance or see the balance, I need to get rid of this.
Speaker B:And this is the biggest lie and propaganda.
Speaker B:Psychology created psychiatry, created spiritual gurus, created teachers, and all that stuff is get rid of something.
Speaker B:There is no way to expulse.
Speaker B:Is that the right term in English?
Speaker B:And to expul an old emotion.
Speaker A:There's no way to accept our shadows.
Speaker A:Yeah, Ex.
Speaker B:By accepting and by recognizing.
Speaker B:This is something that must have vibrated in some shape or form with my contract, with my agreement, gonna get rid of this.
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker B:That's why I admire people who are basically what we would call a mess.
Speaker B:People who are alcoholics, drug users, and then they get sober and they make something out of their life.
Speaker B:This is, for me, incredible.
Speaker B:Impressive, I have to say.
Speaker B:Or people who come out as transgender, transsexual.
Speaker B:I admire these people because I think they are walking teachers of evolution, basically, because it really represents the idea of breaking through a beast, an inner shadow, if you want.
Speaker B:One of my favorite tarot cards is Strength in Crowley.
Speaker B:It's called Lust, which is more poignant, I think.
Speaker B:And it represents a virgin who.
Speaker B:Basically a beautiful virgin who has this beast beside her that growls at her, right?
Speaker B:And she says, just shut up and sit down now, hear you sit down.
Speaker B:She's not getting rid of it.
Speaker B:You don't see a sword.
Speaker B:You don't need a torch.
Speaker B:You don't see kerosene.
Speaker B:You don't see a hand grenade.
Speaker B:She's not interested in getting rid of it.
Speaker B:She said, I'm responsible for you the way I made you.
Speaker B:That's the way.
Speaker B:I will take responsibility for it.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:And by controlling the shadow, she says, you're here.
Speaker B:I made you.
Speaker B:I contributed to you.
Speaker B:So you are my problem, but also you are my responsibility.
Speaker B:You see?
Speaker B:And that's what people with an obvious addiction to things do.
Speaker B:I. I think it's one of the most impressive spiritual aspects to observe, even if they think it's just, you know, willpower and good.
Speaker B:Good luck, basically.
Speaker B:But it is, in its nature, spiritual.
Speaker B:Same idea.
Speaker B:So my advice is, because I hear this every day, watch.
Speaker B:Foster hears it more than me.
Speaker B:What can I do every day?
Speaker B:Look at everything, say yes to everything.
Speaker B:Be grateful for all that you have.
Speaker B:And if something bothers you, don't look at it, acknowledge it, and say, okay, I get it.
Speaker B:You know, it's there.
Speaker B:Now let me see what else is there.
Speaker B:And make a deliberate intention to choose and to focus on something that feels better.
Speaker B:You see, in.
Speaker B:In.
Speaker B:I remember in Montessori, you know, I had my kids in Montessori for only a year.
Speaker B:Then I took them out because they were like, just dumbing down, basically.
Speaker B:That's just my opinion.
Speaker B:Don't come for me, please.
Speaker B:But, you know, it was like, do your homework?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Then let's dance.
Speaker B:And I thought, are you demented?
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You know, that's not a curriculum, but in its core, very interesting.
Speaker B:Okay, then let's relax the mind a little bit and let's go back to the homework.
Speaker B:You see?
Speaker B:So from that point, I don't say ignore it and it will go away, or it becomes a huge issue, but return later to an issue when you feel better in relation to it.
Speaker B:See what I mean?
Speaker B:You know, when you catch somebody lying to you, cheating to you, threatening you, you know, this is something I have to learn because my nature is very mars.
Speaker B:And I'm coming for you.
Speaker B:You know, that's just my nature.
Speaker B:I will come for you.
Speaker B:So I try to this not distract, but choose a different view for a moment.
Speaker B:And then I return back to it.
Speaker B:I'm still coming for you, but I will not destroy you like the first time.
Speaker B:I will teach you a lesson because that's what we do in my craft.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:But that is, I think, a good advice for a daily practice.
Speaker B:You know, get up in the morning, first thing you do is look at the east, look at the rising of the sun.
Speaker B:If you get up that early and say, you know, I'm grateful for all that I have, and I say yes to everything I am, everything I was, and everything I will be.
Speaker B:Because with this thought, you build an understanding that I'm in agreement with what I am.
Speaker B:I have people in the gym.
Speaker B:I can't lose the weight.
Speaker B:Well, because you don't love the body the way it is.
Speaker B:Well, it's just ugly.
Speaker B:Well, then why should it change?
Speaker A:You know, can you have a beautiful hypnosis on weight love as well?
Speaker A:Which is exactly.
Speaker A:Incredible.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:I want to do a weight loss city that has nothing to do with loss.
Speaker B:And I change it to weight love.
Speaker B:And I. I have people who said, you know, I didn't lose the weight, but I feel so much more comfortable, so much more better.
Speaker B:You know, people make compliments like, have you changed?
Speaker B:You know, did you lose weight?
Speaker B:It is all a question of energy and not how much do I kill myself in the gym and eat ice cubes?
Speaker B:You know, that's the idea.
Speaker B:So I know it Sounds like a cliche, but force is more into love than me.
Speaker B:You know, shamanism and healing is all about love.
Speaker B:If you don't love people, you cannot help, you cannot transform anything.
Speaker B:It's the one generator that really moves things.
Speaker B:So my advice for a daily practice that is easy and you know what I mean.
Speaker B:And we're going to have two kinds of people.
Speaker B:I mean, people say that sounds really reasonable and, you know, simple enough.
Speaker B:And people who say that's, yeah, you see, that's all there's gonna be.
Speaker A:I don't know if you heard, but my niece Margot, who's a golden retriever, just barked as.
Speaker B:You said that very well.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:There's going to be two kinds of people, and you choose what kind of environment you want to have around you.
Speaker B:So my second advice for this year as a daily practice is choose your tribe.
Speaker B:Yeah, choose your tribe.
Speaker B:You see, And Foster always says, don't let people use you as a doormat just because you're friends.
Speaker B:Well, I haven't said enough yet in my life about abusive friendships.
Speaker C:Another thing, Aileen, that has been a long term process is everything that I find is very uncomfortable for me.
Speaker C:You know, before I did exorcisms for many years when I was a kid, you know, I was a born again kind of Christian preacher and teacher and you know, I was a healer in churches and laying on of hands and taking out spirits and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker C:As I got older, of course I met demons and I met the old gods and the old goddesses and I embraced them.
Speaker C:So the very things that people call demons and how they talk about them in this Christian sense completely left for me all the Christian dogma left and, and everything.
Speaker C:I was so afraid of a succubi, an incubi, you know, whatever these, these other races that are here, the werewolf race or whatever, there are very few of them, but you know, and the amazing, you know, vampires, whatever.
Speaker C:I always had a terrible image of vampires and I got to know their history, I got to know who they are.
Speaker C:And you started to have a deep respect for them and understanding.
Speaker C:Not that I want to be them or that, that I'm even seduced, but that I respect and, and honor all these different spirits.
Speaker C:This is, I believe, what shamanism is.
Speaker C:When you're embracing your shadow, you're embracing, like when I first met gins, you know, when they started making themselves known to you.
Speaker C:I bought Christos this gin knife with a gin attached to it.
Speaker C:When gins were coming into our sphere, they started to teach us other things, other ways of seeing life.
Speaker C:And when you put all of that together and that.
Speaker C:That love of the divine that I've always had, I've always been, you know, very high, high.
Speaker C:Everything's high, you know, and I have a lot of friends for the angels and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker C:We started to meet the psychotic angels too.
Speaker C:So it's not all great, but we started to discern slowly, slowly.
Speaker C:No, let's look below.
Speaker C:If it's above, so below, let's also look below.
Speaker C:And I think this whole life on earth, we've really looked below.
Speaker C:We've looked at the depths of things.
Speaker C:We've grown our own herbs, we've learned about poisons, We've learned about everything that people reject.
Speaker C:Oh, that's bad.
Speaker C:That's awful.
Speaker C:You shouldn't go there.
Speaker C:I went there.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:I believe what real courage is.
Speaker C:It's not the courage of I have to jump out of an airplane, which I did do, which was not a great thing for me, but, you know, to get over a fear of heights, but to.
Speaker C:Or dangle off a cliff, you know, with different shamans.
Speaker C:For me, what was very important, not just to face that fear, but the fear of the unknown or the fear of the other side or the fear of, you know, leaving your body, that was probably the biggest fear.
Speaker C:The out of body experience, you know, can I get back to my body and why is my body paralyzed when I come back and, you know, how do I wake it up again and not to be afraid to leave a body, you know, then I stopped being afraid of cemeteries, not being afraid of the dead, you know, then we studied a whole procedure of, you know, the peacefulness of a cemetery and the spirits that are there.
Speaker C:And what a huge opening.
Speaker C:I have to say that's self acceptance, that you are all of that too.
Speaker C:And I found that's the real shamanism.
Speaker C:That you take a walk and whatever you gather into your medicine bag on that walk, whatever presents itself to you as power through nature and connection, how, how it reflects you and.
Speaker C:And nature as reminding you of who you are and life.
Speaker C:And I love the idea of Kali, right?
Speaker C:That she, she's born and sacrifices is part of birth, that you will die, so sacrifice.
Speaker C:And that she cuts off your head and then you're not in your head anymore and you, you're not your body and you're already one with divine.
Speaker C:And you have to awaken that.
Speaker C:And that's that the feminine teaching and that you have to go up, you know, there's three things of blood that come out when you cut off the head.
Speaker C:And Kali says, you know, these are the three parts of your subtle body, the shashumna and the ida pigala.
Speaker C:And you, you work with your subtle bodies to attain oneness, yes, mentality.
Speaker C:And then once you come with that, no matter where you go, things get revealed to you.
Speaker C:You start to see, you know, what happened to these different races or what happened to, you know, fairies, whatever.
Speaker C:There's so many different races.
Speaker C:You grow to know them and you love them as much as you love the clients that come to you for healing that, you know, you help to understand, help them to understand their own psyche, their own shadows, what they're afraid of.
Speaker C:And slowly, slowly bring them to courage, self acceptance.
Speaker C:You know, Christos, you always say you have to write down the negative traits.
Speaker C:You know, what are all your failings?
Speaker C:Everything on one piece of paper, you know, or many.
Speaker C:And then on the other side, you write down all your noble traits and attributes.
Speaker B:But, you know, in hermetics we have a practice which I want to say, you can't just separate it and do it out of context, but we basically practice, and I say this carefully, the shadow.
Speaker B:So if I would, let's say again, I grew up in the music scene, in the club scene, in the end 80s, beginning 90s, and there was a lot of drugs everywhere.
Speaker B:I mean, we talk about heavy duty stuff and to some degree, I never, I've never been high in my life, so it's not something that caught me, but it was there.
Speaker B:Let's say, hypothetically, I was prone to it, then homeopathically, to make it hermetically, to make it really drastic.
Speaker B:I would have tried for one year a drug, and then I would have had to stop for a year the drug.
Speaker B:And then the following year you start again.
Speaker B:Then you see what I mean.
Speaker B:In other words, you take the shadow and you basically practice it to some degree.
Speaker B:You see, again, it does work out of context, but that is the theory of it.
Speaker B:And then you stop it.
Speaker B:To make it more easier.
Speaker B:My teacher would smoke for a year and then stop for a year, then smoke for a year and stop for a year.
Speaker B:So the smoking was irrelevant.
Speaker B:It was the practice of creating a polarity in the mind and in the brain itself, you see.
Speaker B:So the same with drinking.
Speaker B:I could say, I'm gonna.
Speaker B:Or make it much more easier when I say, for a year I'm not going to eat any sugar.
Speaker B:And then the second year I'm going to eat sugar.
Speaker B:The third Year I'm going to avoid the sugar.
Speaker B:So it becomes a tool to.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To exercise the mind of some degree.
Speaker B:But again, this is more within a hermetic practice and within a school curriculum.
Speaker B:You would say otherwise, people would go off, you know, great heroin one year, you know, of course not.
Speaker B:But the idea is, again, with.
Speaker B:The same with.
Speaker B:We had with Foster a little talk in our podcast, for example, I think it was the.
Speaker B:The one before the last one, where the thought was also, at what point do we need to step back from spirituality?
Speaker B:You know, And I do believe very much that when people are.
Speaker B:I mean, let's assume that they're really disciplined in something.
Speaker B:The goal in hermetics and in magic is that you.
Speaker B:The habit, you don't have to practice it anymore, you see, so the meditation.
Speaker B:I don't meditate anymore because I am quite meditative in general, I've become quite meditative.
Speaker B:I don't close my eyes when I meditate now.
Speaker B:I meditate with open eyes because I don't need to close my eyes.
Speaker B:So, you see, the thing is, you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that is kind of also a part of evolution.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker B:No, I know a trainer.
Speaker B:I know a famous trainer who basically said, I have this bodybuilding body.
Speaker B:And my, My, my.
Speaker B:I can't understand why my clients are so struggling with.
Speaker B:I just tell them, eat this and work out.
Speaker B:Eat this and work out.
Speaker B:So he would go for a year and.
Speaker B:Or I think for a year and basically pork himself to like 300 pounds.
Speaker B:And then he lost the weight in order to understand what these clients are going through.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:He's not hermetic.
Speaker B:He's not into magic.
Speaker B:He's not into spirituality for what I know.
Speaker B:But he practices a very truthful element that we have in.
Speaker B:In my school, you know, so we have to look at the shadow and meet.
Speaker B:It's almost like travel to the black hole as close as you can, but find this edge where you're not being pulled in and you're still in control, but you're exposing to it.
Speaker B:And I know Foster, in his book or in his books, writes about his journey and his training when they hang him upside down from some abyss.
Speaker B:And I'm like, you're nuts.
Speaker B:You know, he's like, no, no, it is.
Speaker B:Or blindfolding.
Speaker B:No, we did over the years when I know force of blindfold walks and blindfold runs.
Speaker B:And I thought, okay.
Speaker B:He says, now imagine this on a mountain with pretty much no nothing.
Speaker B:You're always a step from, you know, you know, needing your health insurance, you know, hopefully, you know, but it makes total sense to me.
Speaker C:And now it's meditations in the void.
Speaker C:Now it's meditations with Akasha.
Speaker C:This is the same thing as when I was blindfolded or went through these physical torments, really, as a shaman, you know, now we do it with a meditation.
Speaker C:We enter into these black holes, even to the edge, and we understand it more.
Speaker C:We start to see how it feels.
Speaker C:Also the blanking of the mind in meditation or staring at something, you know, for a long time.
Speaker C:We are learning now really how to go into a empty space and fill it with ourselves or get to know divinity in that empty space and feel that part of our own divinity.
Speaker C:I think, Eileen, there's something going on with self deification.
Speaker C:I think many people are choosing that path of finding, you know, divinity within them, uniting with that divinity.
Speaker C:And that's their.
Speaker A:Yeah, sorry.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think that's really quite happening.
Speaker C:And that happened to me especially because Christos taught me, you know, the.
Speaker C:The Kabbalistic path.
Speaker C:He was a kabbalist.
Speaker C:And we went through the Sephirahs and the Tree of Life.
Speaker C:But at the same time, after all of that and all the angelic training and dialing angels and talking to them and everything, we then went into the cliff otic path without him saying, we're now going into the cliff Otic.
Speaker C:So then all of a sudden, the things I was.
Speaker C:I never talked about, I would never talk about Lucifer or Satan or something like that.
Speaker C:And what happened is he introduced me to, you know, underneath the Vatican is this huge temple to Lucifer.
Speaker C:And that used to be part of the Catholic mass and all this.
Speaker C:Who is Lucifer?
Speaker C:So then I had to meet Lucifer.
Speaker C:And I know people say, oh, you shouldn't embrace Lucifer.
Speaker C:What I did.
Speaker C:And then I understood Satan as.
Speaker C:As actually that black hole, you know, that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker C:That void area, that pure kind of dark spirit, but pure also part of all of this creation and chaos that was part of creation.
Speaker C:That is, in fact, deity itself.
Speaker B:You know what Foster is.
Speaker B:I want to contribute to this a little bit.
Speaker B:I think I want people not to be afraid to look at their shadows and not look at shadows at something bad just because it's been told.
Speaker B:I've been told so many times, Aline, oh, my God.
Speaker B:I need an example.
Speaker B:Because, you see, I try not to do it anymore, but why don't you let go Christus of something?
Speaker B:Let go of it.
Speaker B:You're so harsh on yourself.
Speaker B:You're so strict.
Speaker B:You're overdoing it.
Speaker B:You give too much.
Speaker B:Why are you so strict with your students?
Speaker B:And so on.
Speaker B:And so I remember we were in a.
Speaker B:With Foster in a sweat lodge, my first one.
Speaker B:And that I didn't know.
Speaker B:There is a moment when you have to, in that particular sweat, declare that I'm letting go of something.
Speaker B:So, of course, everybody started with, I better go.
Speaker B:And they all.
Speaker B:Something to let go of.
Speaker B:And I was in.
Speaker B:I'm like, holy crap, what am I letting go?
Speaker B:I've couldn't.
Speaker B:I don't know what I can let go.
Speaker B:And I was really panicking, and I was sweating in the sweat lodge for other reasons.
Speaker B:And eventually it came to my turn.
Speaker B:Everybody looks at me, of course, like, let's see what you're going to let go.
Speaker B:And I hear myself say, I'm not letting go.
Speaker B:I am exactly who I am.
Speaker B:So you all.
Speaker B:I love myself.
Speaker B:Everything I do, you all benefit from.
Speaker B:So stop complaining like bitches.
Speaker B:I don't let go of anything.
Speaker B:And I go into this rant and I'm like, I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm letting go of the idea that somebody has to tell me that I have to let go.
Speaker B:I'm not letting go of anything.
Speaker B:I'm letting go of the idea to let go.
Speaker B:Okay, so guess what?
Speaker B:Everybody after me had exactly the same enlightenment, you see?
Speaker B:And I thought in that moment, it just came to me, why should I let go in the first place?
Speaker C:You know, at that time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You have to.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:You know, we were in a meditation, actually, at that time between, how do we embrace the me, what is me and what is not me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:They are both parts of ourselves.
Speaker C:Me and not.
Speaker B:You know, we embrace it all.
Speaker B:But it was interesting because it came in that one moment.
Speaker B:It just came through me, and I said, I'm letting go of the idea that I have to let go of something so that you can feel comfortable with me.
Speaker A:Sounds like a really good example of the water rabbit mentality as well.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:You know, that's the idea.
Speaker B:And so I said, I'm not letting go of anything.
Speaker B:I refuse again to be bullied by this.
Speaker B:Let it go.
Speaker B:You have to forgive.
Speaker B:Let it go.
Speaker B:I don't want to forgive.
Speaker B:You know, eventually I'll do, but until then, I'll enjoy my revenge.
Speaker B:I am.
Speaker B:I am a vengeful being.
Speaker B:I believe that revenge is a very powerful healing, you know, and that depends what it is.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:So again, if somebody feels that they need to cross my boundaries, then I'm going to come after them.
Speaker B:But if it's something like, you know, for a long time, you know, I hated my brother in law.
Speaker B:He was an idiot.
Speaker B:This is not a secret, you know, he was a person, but a difficult person who made everybody's life difficult.
Speaker B:So in the end I couldn't stand him, you know, and I chose not to forgive him because, you know, I enjoyed it too much.
Speaker B:It made sense not to forgive him.
Speaker B:It made sense.
Speaker B:I acknowledge that.
Speaker B:This is a real feeling, you know, and it's a real experience.
Speaker B:I don't want to let go of it.
Speaker B:Eventually, maybe I forgive him, maybe.
Speaker B:But more important is why do I need to forgive?
Speaker B:Why do I need to be the bigger person?
Speaker B:You see, why do I need to be the understanding one?
Speaker B:These are all aspects of being bullied in our society, nothing else.
Speaker B:You see, like women are, you know, you are ingrained with this idea.
Speaker B:You have to be the forgiving part, you have to be the bigger person.
Speaker B:And suddenly a woman says, you know, I'm taking my kids, your money in the house and you're out.
Speaker B:And suddenly you're a, you know.
Speaker B:You see what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah, you see?
Speaker B:Well, the moment you start taking, the moment you choose to, to acknowledge yourself, you know, for men it's a little different, I have to say, but for women it's quite, quite in your face, you see.
Speaker B:So my advice is don't let go.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker B:Why should you let go?
Speaker C:Well, we, we do a practice where you bring the spirit of the person that's your enemy, the person you're in confrontation with, and you actually talk to their spirit and hear their perspective and then they talk to you.
Speaker C:And if you can accept their perspective, if you can understand it, there's a tremendous healing.
Speaker C:Like you know, when you're in Hawaii and you, you go through the deep forgiveness because now you understand both sides and that's the end of polarity.
Speaker C:I'm not polarized to you.
Speaker C:I don't have any more animosity towards you actually.
Speaker C:So it kind of dissolves.
Speaker C:So there's nothing to let go of here.
Speaker C:It's, it finds a point of bindu or whatever, a point of balance.
Speaker C:And I love those moments and I always cultivate those moments like a garden.
Speaker C:I want to know all my enemies.
Speaker C:I'm happy to meet them and, and hear their perspective and slowly, slowly understand what it means in me because I get, try to get to the very essence of what they're saying, even the essence of their pain, even if they're just talking from their pain, and then comes the compassion.
Speaker C:It just.
Speaker C:It's nothing you do.
Speaker C:It's something that floods you because you have an understanding.
Speaker C:That's how I've always gone through things.
Speaker C:So if I get really, really angry at somebody, I feel like, you know, you cheated me out of all this money.
Speaker C:And, you know, because we're in capitalism, a lot of people cheat you out of money when you're buying a house or whenever you're doing.
Speaker C:We went through all this recently, and they, you know, you'd make a lot of bad decisions because they give you some very bad choices.
Speaker C:And, you know, you think those are the choices, and then you find out later, you know, I really didn't think broad enough.
Speaker C:I really wasn't listening, and I took the wrong choice.
Speaker C:And you lose a lot of money and.
Speaker C:And you're left with, do I curse these people?
Speaker C:You know, really have led me astray and I've lost my money, or do I see it from their side that they're stumbling in the dark?
Speaker C:They're really quite ignorant.
Speaker C:They have no idea what they're doing when they're selling a house or when they're, you know, trying to show you a house.
Speaker C:Really know their job.
Speaker C:They're just, you know, playing some role, something they've adopted, but they're not really very good at it.
Speaker C:Then you take a deep breath, you understand their perspective, and you just avoid them from then.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:But you've made peace in you.
Speaker C:It's not about them and Christos.
Speaker C:I always need to make peace.
Speaker C:I mean, for Christos's life, it was much harder.
Speaker C:He went through sexual abuse, he went through a lot of things.
Speaker C:Very, very hard.
Speaker C:For him to make peace with somebody who really keeps doing it and nobody comes to your aid.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:That's why a lot of times you want to be there for people who want to be the one that comes to their aid, where they can talk about their sexual abuse or the terrible things that happen in their life.
Speaker C:And you're a listener.
Speaker C:You don't judge, you don't contribute, you don't do anything.
Speaker C:You listen and then you show them, well, you could do this.
Speaker C:You could possibly do this.
Speaker C:You give them choices of how to resolve this unbelievable hurt inside of.
Speaker C:Because humanity has the capacity to hurt each other to a degree we can't yet imagine over centuries now.
Speaker C:So it builds up and eventually you have to get to the point of the release where you finally understand something and the polarity is not there.
Speaker C:And you're not against life, you're not against them or yourself.
Speaker C:You see both sides now.
Speaker C:I think that has been the very best thing.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The self and the not self.
Speaker C:To embrace both.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker C:This is to me the big yes.
Speaker C:This is coming home for me, racing all this wonderful darkness.
Speaker C:And because I come from so much light and to have both and to.
Speaker C:To be at home in both, I think has been the great delight of this whole life.
Speaker C:And of course, I don't have to do it alone.
Speaker C:I have somebody in my life.
Speaker C:I'm not alone, you know, all the time.
Speaker C:You know, you become a yogi, you become a shaman.
Speaker C:You're always alone.
Speaker C:You know, you do your practice and you're not really alone.
Speaker C:You're not lonely or anything.
Speaker C:You're connected to everything.
Speaker C:But you have somebody by your side who's doing their path too.
Speaker C:And you love them no matter what, with unconditional love, really, and all their habits and everything.
Speaker C:And you, you still want to be there.
Speaker C:You still want to wash their dishes.
Speaker C:So they always say to Christmas, I'm here and I still want to wash your dishes because I'm cooking.
Speaker B:I can't do both.
Speaker C:Or borrow my car or, you know, take my clothes or whatever, you know.
Speaker B:Oh, I'll take it, I'll take it.
Speaker C:I want to share everything.
Speaker C:I don't really want to keep it all for myself anymore, you know, this is mine, that's yours.
Speaker C:You know, all that is part of relationship.
Speaker C:And I have to say I have really enjoyed even mundane quality of it because, you know, we really do take a lot of risks and we do a lot of things on the edge.
Speaker C:That's kind of lovely that we have a reference point and we have a sanctuary to come to in us and then together.
Speaker A:So you're getting ready for your tour soon, aren't you as well?
Speaker A:In a month.
Speaker A:You're visiting everybody.
Speaker A:I'm going, yeah.
Speaker A:And Japan.
Speaker A:I'm going to put all the links for everything because there is so much.
Speaker A:There is the incredible music from Christos, incredible hypnosis.
Speaker A:There's incredible music together.
Speaker A:There are all the vimeos, there's the.
Speaker A:The higher mind training, which is phenomenal.
Speaker A:And you're doing that again soon, aren't you?
Speaker A:In an English, English.
Speaker B:In German, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Fabulous.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And also the Witchcraft with Astrology, which is coming up this weekend, I think.
Speaker A:Is it?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Next week and have to be.
Speaker A:Sorry, there's me with time.
Speaker A:There's no.
Speaker A:I don't know, I'll Post it up underneath.
Speaker A:Anyway, mind you, when this is posted, it might be next weekend.
Speaker B:It is, it is some.
Speaker B:At some point in.
Speaker A:I'll put everything on there.
Speaker B:I have to look it up.
Speaker A:Don't worry, I will put everything on there.
Speaker B:Okay, thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Because you are both incredible and just.
Speaker A:Thank you so, so much.
Speaker A:So you're.
Speaker A:You're going to be on tour, seeing people in person again.
Speaker A:You're still doing your online session.
Speaker A:So if anybody would like to.
Speaker A:Online sessions with you, which are also incredible, you can do those online.
Speaker A:If you, if you can't get to Christos and, and Foster in.
Speaker A:In various countries.
Speaker A:And then also the huge sacred tour to Japan.
Speaker A:Can you talk a little?
Speaker B:I cannot wait to go to Japan because Japan again is.
Speaker B:Is a gate, is a portal.
Speaker B:You know, it has incredible.
Speaker B:It is, it is on.
Speaker B:On the same level like Egypt for me, it's on the same day level like Peru, you know, these kind of places.
Speaker B:But remember when you go to Peruna, for example, Machu Picchu, they don't like spiritual tourism anymore.
Speaker B:No meditation, no sitting, no gathering, no nothing.
Speaker B:Next they realize what a popular place it is.
Speaker B:So that is over.
Speaker B:Egypt, of course, you have to fight yourself through sometime because it's such a country on the edge sometimes, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:With all the social inequalities that are, that you're witnessing.
Speaker B:Basically it's a very different mentality of, of, you know, very different.
Speaker B:And just because the people live in Egypt and they see the pyramids every day doesn't mean they acknowledge it as well.
Speaker B:It is, they're completely oblivious of it.
Speaker B:But Japan's on the same level for me.
Speaker B:And it is in its nature healing.
Speaker B:It is in its nature healing simply from a point of social development, from a level of hygiene, which was the first time when I went it, I was shocked how clean it was.
Speaker B:There's no garbage anywhere because it's a bad look.
Speaker B:So it doesn't resonate.
Speaker B:Nice to have garbage cans outside, which is, you know, and simply the openness of spirit because you can be Muslim, you can be a witch, you can be a Satanist, you can be a Christian, you can be a Buddhist, you can be anything you want.
Speaker B:You never hear, as far as I know, you never heard of a terrorist attack in Japan.
Speaker B:Never happened because they're open, you see, they totally find your.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The way we've been received.
Speaker B:The first time we went and you know, we had to show them, of course, what we do.
Speaker B:Okay, explain to me.
Speaker B:They're very Open people, very interested.
Speaker B:But also they acknowledge spirit ghosts lost.
Speaker B:You know, there is a great tradition in their belief system of souls that don't pass over.
Speaker B:With a tsunami area, for example, there's a fantastic, I think a documentary about it.
Speaker B:How people in that area, taxi drivers pick up totally wet people sometimes and drive them to a certain place and then they disappear their car.
Speaker B:So they're like called freak ghost rights because they say, we do know that these souls never transition.
Speaker B:They're still in the, in this, in a state of shock.
Speaker B:And we just get them to one place to another, like it's the most normal thing you see.
Speaker B:And that is so interesting with Japan because it is embedded in their nature and they have gods, they're polytheistic.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's a country of witches, basically.
Speaker B:You know, if you would look at like Greece, we're not orthodox polytheistic.
Speaker B:Let's be, let's be real, right?
Speaker B:India, witches, polytheistic, Mexicans, you know, when, when I hear Mexicans and they're all about Jesus and, and I'm like, you're not Catholic, guys.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You have a complete different.
Speaker B:This is the idea where I think that places like, like Japan, for example, provide already when you arrive a, A, A certain path in which you can experience yourself, you know, without making a big religion out of it, if you want.
Speaker B:But it's, it's a normal concept.
Speaker B:The, the.
Speaker B:The tradition of cleansing yourself.
Speaker B:It also talks about purification these onsen.
Speaker B:I mean, the Japanese is a clean human being.
Speaker B:Clean, you see, Very organized, very structured, you see.
Speaker B:And we think it's too, too strict at times, but.
Speaker B:And let's not pretend they don't have problems.
Speaker B:I think they have the highest suicide rate in the world.
Speaker B:When you don't catch up the requirement, you see, there's a disbalance again.
Speaker B:So, but for a spiritual purpose, I said, I can't wait to go again because it was such a refined, beautiful environment and it really provided a great source of spirit communication, which I want to do.
Speaker B:And also healings in general.
Speaker B:It's just a great healing place in general, you know, so this is definitely.
Speaker B:And what's going to happen because, you know, people are a little late, but they have to, you know, catch up now.
Speaker B:And Japan also, what we talked with us about why we chose Japan again, because it was closed for three years, you see, and this is the first chance they open up, I think, for groups also.
Speaker B:Again, but it has to be a small group.
Speaker B:That's why I'M saying to people, it's going to be limited.
Speaker B:I can't bring 50 people.
Speaker B:It's impossible.
Speaker B:So we're going to be around 10ish, maybe 12, 13, but that is the limit, you see.
Speaker B:And then the cherry blossoms and then, you know, trees.
Speaker C:Unbelievable trees.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, it's a beautiful.
Speaker B:We went the last time just to bring it in.
Speaker B:Aline we went to.
Speaker B:Because it was on the way to a kigahara, which is a very famous forest where people go.
Speaker B:Disappear and kill themselves.
Speaker B:In other words, the Japanese doesn't leave a mess when decides to commit suicide.
Speaker B:They go into a forest.
Speaker B:It's a very famous forest where people, you know, you.
Speaker B:It's really large.
Speaker B:It's like the.
Speaker B:The Black Forest in Germany, I think, where suddenly after a year or two, you fight the skeleton hanging there or somebody there, which is very interesting.
Speaker B:That forest is a portal.
Speaker B:There is a portal.
Speaker B:So instinctively when people go there, I don't say do it for Christ's sake.
Speaker B:But if they go there.
Speaker B:And I thought, why this forest?
Speaker B:Because the trees have compassion for humans and they understand it's too much sometimes.
Speaker B:So we're providing you with a aid or a portal by which it is easier to transition, you see.
Speaker B:So I said, can we go there?
Speaker B:And I took.
Speaker B:It goes well, we can do it.
Speaker B:Crystal son.
Speaker B:She was like, why you go there?
Speaker B:But she was very polite.
Speaker B:Harumi, we're gonna meet her again.
Speaker B:And I'm ecstatic.
Speaker B:And I explained it to her and she said, you know, it makes sense.
Speaker B:It makes sense.
Speaker B:It's a very peaceful place.
Speaker B:Sad but peaceful place.
Speaker B:But it's an interesting approach in the society.
Speaker B:If I end my life, I'm not going to do it with, you know, hand grenades and on tick tock, right?
Speaker B:They're going in a silent place, in a quiet place.
Speaker B:I don't want to leave a mess.
Speaker B:I don't want to burden anybody with my.
Speaker B:It is very sad, but there's also.
Speaker A:Honor.
Speaker B:It's a big thing, you see.
Speaker B:There's a certain beauty in the sadness sometimes, you know, it's difficult to explain, but that's the idea.
Speaker B:But it is.
Speaker B:It's a place where.
Speaker B:When I went the first time, I thought I could live here.
Speaker B:From a spiritual point where people go to Egypt, they go to other places.
Speaker B:Me, surprisingly, it was Japan.
Speaker B:It was the most spiritually active gate.
Speaker B:Not the whole island, of course, but, you know, a great deal of it.
Speaker B:And the places we went, Kyoto and Osaka are vibing I have to say, we didn't go to Tokyo because I don't need another New York.
Speaker B:But then we went to Mount Fuji.
Speaker B:So these are places where it's a must.
Speaker B:It's a bucket list, basically.
Speaker B:And you can feel it.
Speaker B:You definitely.
Speaker B:And then you bring yourself into, of course, in your practice, and then it gets elevated.
Speaker B:It's a stunt.
Speaker B:A stunning place.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thank you for sharing this.
Speaker B:You see, I'm excited about it because I've been.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I wish everybody could experience this.
Speaker A:I'm excited for you.
Speaker B:But that's the idea.
Speaker C:I think the thing I liked about Japan the most, the last time we went, is that everybody bought each other dinner.
Speaker C:Somebody volunteered, the next night, somebody else, and everybody just wanted to do it out of the generosity of their heart.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because we had such a nice group, you know, and they bonded and every said, okay, it's my treat today.
Speaker B:It's my treat.
Speaker C:Everybody helped each other.
Speaker C:Everybody was.
Speaker B:Somebody was so lovely.
Speaker C:That's what impressed me more than anything.
Speaker B:And that is something that, on our tours, I have to say, I've never seen that kind of bonding, you know, that kind of willingness to really go as a group happen.
Speaker B:Only there.
Speaker C:It's a deep time.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:We had that.
Speaker C:Before Christos, that in India, where everybody went for enlightenment, everybody went for.
Speaker C:For practice, and they came back transformed, and they all bonded because they were together in one idea.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Which is the concept, you see.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:The oneness.
Speaker B:Yeah, the oneness, isn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you so much for being.
Speaker A:I don't know how long we feel.
Speaker B:On, but thanks so much.
Speaker A:It's been an absolute honor.
Speaker A:I will make sure all the correct information is on there for people to find you, because I know everybody knows you anyway, but I really feel that there's a lot of people who are ready to meet you as well.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:We're ready.
Speaker B:And we are ready to meet them.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:I hope that this podcast is a big blessing for you and that you going it and, you know, because it's about time, girl.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker A:That's why I said at the beginning about.
Speaker A:Come on, Come on, Eileen.
Speaker A:There's actually a song that people used to sing to me called Come on Helene's, and that.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:It's better than Macarena.
Speaker B:We had a translator.
Speaker B:She said, if I hear this song one more time, I'm gonna kill somebody.
Speaker B:People had to do it, you know, it's like, even closer.
Speaker B:She's like, shut up.
Speaker C:The worst is Lola.
Speaker C:Unfortunately her name is Lola.
Speaker C:Everybody sings some song.
Speaker C:Terrible.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker A:I'm still giggling.
Speaker A:So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker A:And I wish you a wonderful tour.
Speaker A:I wish you many blessings in all of your workshops and I will be there for most of them.
Speaker A:And I wish you many, many blessings in Japan and well, always.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:Bye bye.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Hello gorgeous.
Speaker A:I hope you enjoyed that episode.
Speaker A:Please do like share Follow review all of that good stuff and so we can grow, so we can reach more and more people who are beginning to accept their sensitivity for the gift that it truly is with so much love.
Speaker A:Thank you for all my guides.
Speaker A:Thank you for all my guests.
Speaker A:Thank you for you.
