A Call from the Wild: Turtles, Trust & Following the Heart with Beatriz Carmena.
In this gentle and inspiring episode, I am joined by Beatriz Carmena — nurturer of nature and founder of Tartarukus.com, a conservation initiative rooted in the heart of Oaxaca, Mexico.
Originally from Spain, Beatriz followed her deep love for turtles across continents. Her path has led her to work closely with local communities who are devoted to preserving the delicate ecosystems around them. Now based in Mexico, she continues to support eco-tourism, education, and connection to nature for the next generation.
This episode is a reminder of how following your heart can ripple outward — from personal purpose to planetary impact.
✨ Inside this conversation:
• The magic of turtle conservation
• Community-based environmental care
• Creating opportunities for education, eco-tourism & soulful volunteering
• Living a life guided by nature and reciprocity
🌎 Want to get involved?
You can learn more, donate, collaborate or volunteer by visiting: https://tartarukus.com
And follow Beatriz on Instagram: @tartarukus
Transcript
Hello, gorgeous. And a warm welcome to accepting.
In this episode, we are honoring previous guests who took their time and energy to really kindly share with us their wisdom. And it was a couple of years ago when I first started the podcast and their episodes were not shared properly to the world on the platforms.
So I've been really feeling it's time to share them properly.
So for cancer season, all the way through July and then into my birthday month, which is August, I'm going to be sharing the beautiful episodes I have with wonderful guests that came on and shared their gorgeous wisdom. So get yourself comfy, get a cozy drink, and let's dive in. Hello and a warm welcome to the Align with Aline podcast.
I'm delighted to introduce you to the wonderful Beatriz Carmena.
Now, Beatriz was originally born in Spain, and with her passion and love for turtles and the environment and making the world a better place that we live in, she is now based in Mexico offering beautiful volunteer experiences with eco tourism. And she's also now working with an incredible company where they are teaching the local community and the children all about the environment.
And Bea Beatrice has come on today to share the space with us to tell us her story and to tell us all about how to help the world the way she does and what all her passions are. So thank you so much, Beatri, for being here.
Speaker B:Well, thank you so much for inviting me. It's very nice what you said about me.
Speaker A:It's true, I only speak the truth. So it's. It's incredible that you're here. Thank you so much.
I mean, I. I've mentioned already how amazing you are, and I really would like everybody to meet you.
So would you please tell us, for those who, who don't know who you are, how you discovered your passion for turtles and your passion for the environment?
Speaker B:Well, your story, you know, turtles, for me, when I was like little, it's something that I could only see in the. In the television, in documentaries.
No, I saw many videos of them coming, going, eating, whatever, and I thought that was something that was out of my life, not something that I never will be able to see.
And then when I was studying my idea, like my environmental engineer in Madrid, so suddenly I was looking for opportunities because I was like, so into working with wildlife, animals. But yeah, like protecting, conserving it and looking, looking, looking, you know, I don't know, working on this manifestation. Absolutely.
I was really trying at the end. I don't know if it was destiny because I was not looking anything outside Spain. No, I was Just looking for internships.
And suddenly I went with an association that was Coahunga Eco project, that they were doing ecotourism here in Oaxaca with local groups protecting turtles. And I just asked them, no, I am a student. I want to do an internship. Like, would you like me to stay there with you?
And they say, yeah, let's have a meet, whatever.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker B:Here in Mexico, being a student with. I was working with a turtle camp here in the coast of Oaxaca, where I am right now working.
Speaker A:You're based in Oaxaca? Yes. Yeah. And you have lots of different volunteer opportunities, which we'll come to in a minute. I just want to hear your story.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly. Well, in one of the turtle scam that I started is where I am working right now too. Between. Among another programs. No, but yeah, like, I was like.
I feel. I felt like I was in a paradise. I was like reaching a dream, you know, that I thought that I never was able to do something like that. No.
Speaker A:Well, I think your passion and your enthusiasm, you put that into the universe and it came straight back to you. And, you know, it's for you, obviously.
Speaker B:Yeah, I ex. And, well, at the end, when I stayed there. No, like, the first time I went a second time to do my thesis, I. I made like three trips.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And I understood that I needed to do something there, to work there, to live there, because it was like something connected with this place. Well, these places, because I. Well, Ituahaca coast, many different communities. So, yeah, that's more. More or less my story. How did I get here?
Speaker A:That's so gorgeous. So now you're in work. Now you followed your intuition, followed your dreams, and now you're working with the various communities.
Can you explain to us what would be a typical day with a volunteering experience with the. With the tur. Please?
Speaker B:Well, it's difficult to say how is a typical day, because now that I get with five different communities, every day is almost different. No? Yeah, the work with the turtles, specifically, it's usually during the night. The turtles, they nest during the night, so.
So we have to protect them from poachers. Many times it's very difficult because here there are two beaches that are the most important beaches for the olive Riddle sea turtle. The olive.
They nest more than 1 million turtles in each beast every year. They are the most powerful beaches for this species. So for that many times, there are so many turtles and they are many poachers as well.
Speaker A:Not enough volunteers. Yeah.
Speaker B:Not enough space to protect them. Not enough strongness. So.
Well, the idea with the volunteer is starting to make these people understand how that there is other ways not to protect the target. Like to work also for them to. But not exploiting them. No, because they think that there is no any income for them.
They are only turtles and they only have to look for ways to survive to maintain their families. And I, I really understand.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:But at the same time it's like, you know, here is people that is willing to be protecting them, to pay to see them, to have a guy.
Speaker A:So it's educating the poachers as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, we are doing that. In fact, many times that we go to the beach with the volunteers, we start talking with them and try making them.
Trying to understand what is the situation of this animals. And they, at the end of the conversation they always say, ah, yes, yeah, we, we have to change. No, we have to look for other ways.
Speaker A:It's really amazing, amazing. And you've created that. That's beautiful. Really beautiful.
Speaker B:Well, I, I support, I support because we always go with our local guys. They are from the community that they started to do this job and we just support them to do like we give them energy. Hands.
Speaker A:Yeah. No, yeah.
Oh, but I know you're saying it's not you and it is about community and it is all about, you know, we've, I've spoken about with many people about this is. It's, it's. It's the feeling of being one and not separation.
But what I would like to say is don't underestimate what you have created because it's absolutely beautiful. Incredible. And you're inspiring people. You know, you're inspirational with what you've created and with all the guides around you who love you.
Sorry, I'm going to stop crying.
Speaker B:Like sensitive. Thank you.
Speaker A:I've got a goosebumpy and tingly as well. I do that when, when the absolute truth is coming out from the heart and it's, you know, it's a real heartfelt conversation that happens.
So, so when you go out at night then to protect the turtles, are you collecting the eggs? What's happening?
Speaker B:Well, in Scoville and in Ventanilla, there are like two turtle stumps. They have the nest in a hatchery that is like a place protected from animals, dogs and also for people. So they bury the nest.
Right away that we find the turtle, we collect the nest. They are like usually 100 eggs in average per one turtle. So we collect them, we bury them in this hatchery and then we wait.
For example, in Ori riddle species, it's 45 days that we have to wait until they hatch. So we release them usually in the mornings or if they are hatching during the afternoon, or we have to wait until the sunset.
Speaker A:Gorgeous. So the olive ridleys, they. The main turtle, where the eggs come from, would you say?
Speaker B:But there are also two species more, for example, now that it's cold season here, more or less cold because it's just in the night, it's fresh.
Speaker A:But look gonna say, yeah, really cold. Looks really cold.
Speaker B:Yeah. Now they are nesting the.
The green turtle they call green or black turtle, and that they are like the most common ones also with like, not that common as olive riddle, because they are really, really endangered together with the leatherback. The leatherback sea turtle is the biggest one in the world. It can length 2 meters long and they are like, also super endangered.
For example, last year in Escovilla, I think we collected like almost 40. Almost 40 nests of leatherback.
re. And like in the season of: Speaker A:22.
Speaker B:That season was, wow, amazing. Between Ventania, they collect like Sistine Nest, more or less. So.
Speaker A:Wow.
And I would just like to say, so full disclosure, I have had the pleasure to be in Waka, and I have had the pleasure of being with Beatrix and being on the night patrol. And I cannot tell you, there are no words how beautiful it is with the.
You feel the hearts from the energy from the turtles as they come out and they're laying in the energy of the people around. It's beautiful. And to be able to help in such a gorgeous way that bear tree has created. I can't. I'm thinking in Spanish.
I can't recommend this beautiful experience enough is what I'm trying to say. So. So I just felt it was really important because obviously I've been there and.
And I remember walking under the stars because there's no light pollution at all. The.
The night patrols and with the waves crashing and then watching those beautiful creatures coming out of the water and, you know, and this just the trust with all the guides around us. It's amazing. So, yeah, I'm. I'm one of your biggest fans.
Speaker B:Thank you so much, Alim. In fact, the year that you came. Yeah. Is the year that we could see, like, these leatherbacks. Amazing animals. It was amazing.
Speaker A:It was incredible. But there weren't lots and lots. It was a real honor to be Able to see the leatherbacks that we did so going on from. So you mentioned Escobia.
So there's. There's five communities that you're working with at the moment. I understand.
Can you tell us a little bit about the other communities and the other ecotourism opportunities and experiences?
Speaker B:Yeah, all of them are in Oaxaca coast. So here we like, it's amazing. There are many, many ecotourism projects. Beautiful. But right now we are working with five communities.
One, it's in Morayuta. Well, that is the beach. The community is called Rio Seco. Morayuta and Escobilla are like very, very similar.
They are like kind of far from each other.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And both of them have this Arrivada nesting and they are the two most important in the world.
Speaker A:Can you tell us what Arribada is, please?
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:That's okay.
Speaker B:The arrivals are like, they are a phenomenon where thousands of. And thousands of sea turtles come to nest at the same time all together.
They start talking together right in front of the beach, and suddenly they decide at some point to come out all together. No, like, let's gather all babies. Yeah, we are ready.
Speaker A:Go.
Speaker B:And it's a matter of like. Yeah, survival. No.
e more than ten hundred, like: Speaker A:100,000. Good. Wow. Lots of poachers to talk to.
Speaker B: turtles.: Speaker A:So. So when. So when you know the Arabad is approaching, do you make sure that you have many, many more volunteers ready?
Speaker B:Well, we usually try to gather the volunteers because the volunteers are going to stay longer, you know, like they are going to stay now our program is for 11 days.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Okay. So we gather these volunteers for 11 days. So it's easily that managed to gather them in the right time. No more or less. This is a natural phenomenon.
Can happen.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No guarantees. Because nature does exactly what nature does.
Speaker B:So yeah, for example, the last. The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B: In:That moon because it was so cold for them. So it's climate change also.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:This year we had like very regular arrivals. Like it was like pretty good with the moon because they are following the moon effects, which is the Standard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They come with the descendants. So the babies will hatch during full moon, 45 days after gorgeous.
Speaker A:So they come when the moon is. Is. Is waxing. So it's waxing moon up to.
Speaker B:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:Gorgeous. So I was about to go off on one about planetary hours in the moon then, because we'll.
We'll talk more about the communities because the reason I. I was. I was delighted to be there anyway. But for me as well, the moon means so much and the moon, tides.
And obviously the moon dictates the way of the tides and the waves and just the beauty of the turtles listening to the moon and the whole. The whole feminine aspect of it. Because I'm sure, you know, we're going so much more into the divine feminine and in the world.
You know, we're leaving behind this patriarchal system. But it's. It's about balance. So it's. It's not leaving the. The masculine behind. It's about bringing in the feminine as well.
So there's lots of beautiful balance. And I really found with your.
With the experience, I felt that beautiful balance as well, because we were on the masculine side, marching along the walk with the. The beach with the beautiful. You know, it was divine with the. The turtles. Yeah. I. I could talk about this all night. How wonderful it is.
Speaker B:Yeah, they are many experience.
Speaker A:So. So the. There's another experience I would love you to talk to us about is. Is an experience going to the jungle. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Speaker B:Exactly. Like this is another community where we work Cinco Altepec. They are carrying one jungle of 1, 1, 100 a bit more.
They are 70 owners where they have like an amazing biodiversity. And it's like. I don't know exactly in. In English, is this the word microweather?
Speaker A:Yeah, Micro weather. Microclimates. Yeah, absolutely. Microclimates. Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's like everything could be dry surrounding the. The jungle, but then you arrive there. It's evergreen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The whole. And they have many animals there. And cougars are. Some of them ocelots, ears. Many, many wildlife that. It's amazing because there are no cattle there.
No. And there are many things too. That means that that place is full of life.
Speaker A:Yes. Yeah. So. So just. Just to go back on what you said, because I just like to. To cover how beautiful this is.
So there's 70 owners of this entire area and none of. Is it. None of it is used for any kind of any farming or anything at all. It's all beautifully well cared for. Between.
Speaker B:Yeah, they made a Natural reserve. So officially this is a protected natural area.
Speaker A:Gorgeous. Protected natural area.
Speaker B:Beautiful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they were doing this like without funds, just because they wanted that, that place that many of the people that they, they are the owners, they born there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's like they really love this.
Speaker A:Place and they know it so well as well. Are they the guides? Do they guide. Are they the guides in the jungle as well? Yeah. So they know everything about the jungle. Wow.
Speaker B:Everything. Like also one amazing thing that they have is the traditional medicine they have there. A pharmacy, a whole pharmacy. This is for stomachache.
This is for diabetes. This is for. They have an amazing resource that they want to keep alive for the. For the whole village. So anytime that someone needs any.
Any plant for a treatment and something, they just grab it for them. So it amazing.
Speaker A:So they just pop into the jungle. There you go.
Speaker B:Here's your cure.
Speaker A:Gorgeous.
Speaker B:And they amazing results too. So.
Speaker A:So, so that. So that's in the jungle as well.
And we were talking before because I'd like to ask your opinion on a couple of things as well, which is in terms of sustainability and any advice you have for any of our listeners. But what I would really like to talk to you about is the other wonderful incentive that you're working on at the moment with the pollination project.
And this is, I understand, teaching the children of the community about the environment. Could you talk to us a little bit more about that, please?
Speaker B:Well, we started to do some environmental workshops. We started with the Ventanilla children. No children from that is the other third community where we work.
They protect a lagoon full of crocodiles and biodiversity, mangroves and so on.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker B:So we wanted to give another step just not doing like some workshops, like a few, like one time in a month.
We wanted to create a group that can start to lead their own conservation activities that like environmental awareness campaigns that they can lead these kind of things. Amazing.
So we started to this project with them and then we started another one in Ventanilla and we are starting another one in Morayuta and they are group of. Yeah, children.
Speaker A:Children.
Speaker B:Yeah, children that they want to know more about environment. Know more about like how to keep the research and the community in a good condition. And.
And in this project that it's funded to, for the pollination project, we are focusing on hummingbirds.
Speaker A:Look behind me.
Speaker B:Yes. When I saw your background, I was like, she did?
Speaker A:So that's absolutely gorgeous. So you're teaching the children and there's an ongoing. It's like almost like a school. If you Like a beautiful school about the environment.
So they can respect their environment. And would you say it's, you know, you're creating, I feel that you're creating the next generation to care for the environment.
So they're understanding their. Their surroundings and then they can teach as well. Is, is. Is that the incentive that's happening?
Speaker B:We call them environmental brigades. Oh, it's starting to have their own logo, their own name.
Speaker A:Wonderful.
Speaker B:For example, in Ventanilla they are the mangroves. Because like that village is like full of mangroves. And for example, in Estabilla they are called the crocodile Turtles. Like a mix.
Speaker A:Excellent.
Speaker B:They make a beautiful drawings about like mixing turtles with crocodiles. And it's their own signal, the animals.
Speaker A:Gorgeous. So you mentioned Ventanilla and the crocodiles. And this is another experience for ecotourism as well, isn't it?
Could you tell us a little bit about Vintania as well, please?
Speaker B:This community, I think is one example, one sample for conservation in the whole Oaxaca. And I think for the like ecotourism lead by community. It's also like an amazing sample, no?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They been working for almost 30 years right now.
Speaker A:30? Did you say 30?
Speaker B:Like from 19 years.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Then, huh? They are in the, in the. In like four years. They are making 30 years. Wow. So. And yes, place is amazing, you know.
Well, they are protecting a lagoon full of mangroves. Like when you go there, you see a biodiversity of birds, A huge biodiversity of birds.
But also they started to make this lagoon like a place to recover the crocodiles population. Anyway, in Oaxaca they want that they hate crocodiles because they are dangerous.
And they say no, if you know how to deal with crocodiles, they are like so nice and well, they are there and that's it. No.
Speaker A:Wow. So what's. What's the benefits? I mean, obviously we love all animals, but what, what do in Ventania? What, what do the community there say that the.
The crocodiles benefit the area?
Speaker B:Well, they started to see that, for example, to show to the people crocodiles. It's an amazing resource because they are like, they are slow, they can be seen, you know. Yeah. And the people think that that is my. Fantastic.
For me, I love to see them because they are animals. So they, they started to see that the people like them. No too.
And of course they were protecting their environment before because it was like, okay, let's stop exploiting it. That let's start be having another source of income. No. When I ask the people what did they have to change to start this project? No.
Or to keep this project going. They started to tell me I stopped fishing, I stopped farming. I stopped. Yeah, because. Because they. They started to work on conservation.
Speaker A:No, they saw another way.
Speaker B:Exactly. They are reforesting mangroves. They are. And you say, and at the end, of course, you need to feed your family and you, you have to think ways.
So they think. They thought, okay. I prefer to protect my research and to show to the people and focus on that instead of doing another thing.
Speaker A:You know, Gorgeous.
Speaker B:You know, and they like, they have like all the mangroves now. Well, they are recovering because in June last year they suffered a hurricane. Nobody died.
Like, now that they know how to deal with it, it's not dangerous anymore. They know exactly what time they are going to come. But it's true that the mangroves were super affected.
When I reached there, I think I last two days because the road was like, you couldn't go by car. They were like super sad.
For example, the representative of the, of the, of this cooperative, I saw him crying like an old guy that was working their whole life protecting that place. He was like, so sad that I was crying too. Oh, my God. No, it's green again. Because at the end, it's nature. Nature works for itself too.
Like, if you leave it, they will, it will be recovered as well.
Speaker A:Yeah. And because they're so kind and beautiful and wonderful to nature, that's why it all works out for the best for them as well.
I think that is incredibly. I keep using inspirational, but it is.
Imagine that nearly 30 years ago they said, right, that's it, we're not gonna, we're not going to exploit nature or animals anymore. And this is what we're going to do. Now I feel like I'm gonna cry. It's just. Oh, wow, that's just gorgeous.
And so you're obviously helping them by bringing volunteers. And the volunteers are helping the environment. And then the volunteers are also telling everybody else. So let's keep spreading the word, basically.
Speaker B:Yeah. And also, like, if anybody is coming to, To. To. To be here in Oaxaca, they come to you. I always say, no, go to Ventanilla.
And I always try to promote them in my website, my social networks. No, like, if you are coming, go to Ventanilla, go to. And all the other projects that I am working for and show.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I'm, you know, of course, well, I'm. I'm going to make sure that everybody's got all your social media, the website details so they can get in touch with you. You.
But we haven't finished talking I just, I feel, I mean, Vincent, I mean, obviously I was there in Vintania and it was absolutely incredible.
The, the, the way they were looking after us, the way that we were welcome into the community and all the beautiful food that was created for us every day just on an open fire was absolutely incredible.
So, so we've spoken about the jungle, we've spoken about Ventanilla, we've spoken about Escobia and we've spoken about the colabies, we've spoken about the hummingbirds. So is there anything else that you would like to share with us? I, I would.
I know you're a huge advocate for sustainability, so would you like to share anything with us in terms of how we can help the environment? How can we can start making little steps to start helping the environment from, from where we are at the moment?
Speaker B:Well, there are many, many things that everybody can do and I think most, most of us, we are aware of the things we need to change for the climate, for the nature and so on.
I like, these things can come to my mom, to my mind always, almost every day, you know, and one thing that I know, that we have to work before starting something. It's to work on our mind, to discipline ourselves, to focus.
No, because, for example, I can say eat less meat, for example, because of, well, this, the cow meat. They are the 15. Yeah, 15 of the pollution.
You know, there are many things like that also, like to avoid plastic and like this disposable everything that we use just one time and that's it. But it's a matter of first working in us and saying, I don't want this in my life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm not going to buy this or I'm going to stop eating this.
Because of course not like you are craving many times for any kind of food or you are always eating when you know that is not good for your body or for the planet, you know, so first work into yourself and then start giving. No, start helping their nature. So this is something that you can.
Speaker A:Brilliant. Thank you. I feel they're really wise words. Thank you. So first of all, we need to create that habit. We need to make that decision.
And once we make that decision, we stick with that decision. And so, yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying.
So instead of saying, oh, well, we'll just do that today, it's like, no, no, no, you've said you're not going to do that. That's it now. Yeah, yeah. And being almost disciplined, would you say?
Speaker B:Yeah, discipline, like controlling your mind, controlling these Things that I tell, you know, like this demon that is always behind you. You want these? Buy a new computer, even if yours is working up, because you are. Yeah, like, it's like reuse it. You don't have to buy something new.
It's get it. Many, many things. Many. But first, it's like first trying to think if you really want that, then when you control you yourself, then you can start.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah. And, and I feel it's, it's really important because as well, you know, it said that it takes 21 days to change a habit.
So what I, what I would suggest for anybody who wants to change anything is give yourself those 21 days and just stick to it and then see how easy it is afterwards. But obviously it's not preaching to people. It's. The world is changing so much and we're all more and more naturally making decisions to be healthier.
I mean, I've been vegan a number of years, but it was a decision that I made on my own. Nobody forced me. So that, that's what I feel is really important.
When people, I remember when I said I was vegan, the amount of people said, you're not going to have enough of this, you're not going to have enough of this, and tried to talk me out of it and then later said, actually you've made me go vegetarian, but I didn't do anything. It's. And I feel it's exactly what you're doing. It's by we, when we make changes for ourselves, it influences other people.
It's not saying to people, do this, do that, it's just, this is what I do. And then people say, oh, that's interesting. Could you tell me a bit about that?
Speaker B:Yeah. And you know, for example, how was. No, this proceed for you? This changed to be vegan, for example. No.
Incredible at the beginning, like, you are like, super. Not just trying to remind yourself, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly. I mean, we're progressing, but just very quickly. I was vegetarian anyway, and it was because of a, it was because of an allergy test that I had.
And so I had to avoid certain things that I'd not really been wanting to have anyway. And then I ended up just thinking, well, I don't really enjoy it. And now I know what happens.
I don't want any of that in my system, thank you very much. So, yeah, it was.
But it was in the same way that you studied, you know, you, you studied and then you were looking for internships because you were so enamored with turtles. And you were so passionate about that. In the same way that you put that out there to the universe. That's what came for you.
You know, in, in the same way I was making changes to be healthier. That's what came for me. So it's. I really believe. And, and what you say is so true is once we make that decision.
So would you say, do you have a meditation practice? Do you do any kind of meditation? I mean, the meditation is walking along the beach at night with the turtles, obviously.
Speaker B:It's also a kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah, completely. Because meditation could be in so many ways. Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah. I, I, well, I started long ago. I. This is an abit that is not always in my. In my daily life, but right now I am retaking it because.
Yeah, you need that for. Just because of this. I took it like maybe a month ago or something like that.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker B:Because I was, you know, like this, not fighting against my mind, telling me that this is like. Because of course not like doing this project. I have many times that everything is so hard because right now I am doing this alone.
And yeah, sometimes it's like I cannot do it. I want to stop it. I want just to work for a. So I need to, like, meditation helps a lot to focus myself. No, on this. Like, what do you want?
No, you don't want that. You want to keep working.
You need that smile of the children every time that you do a works of like these beautiful people, that they are happy because they are people that they come volunteers that admire their job, that they help them, that there is like a. This link between cultures. And it's so beautiful to see how people really is really grateful for both ways, both volunteers and communities.
No, so it's like. No, you're. I'm not going to abandon. But that some things I need some. Yeah. Meditation.
Speaker A:Absolutely. I mean, we're all human. And especially you've just, you've just said it. You're doing all of this on your own, so. Absolutely.
And we do have to work on. On ourselves inside before we, we go out and face the world. I feel as well.
And again, I say do not underestimate what you have created, because it's incredible.
And there's so many people who will be listening to this, who I know will want to meet you, who I know will want to come to Oaxaca and, you know, maybe I'm sure you'd be interested in collaboration as well. We can, you know, if people want to collaborate with you, they can get in touch. Yes. So you're not doing all on your own?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
In fact, I am looking for like, of course I have to first doing the first step, but I am working on to bring people longer periods that they can in the communities and also the projects and so on. Some, some ideas going on and. But I, I am, I'm not just ideas, I am really working on them.
Speaker A:No, I know that when you say ideas, you're doing that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I'm doing it. But it's true that it needs some steps before that I am doing right now.
Speaker A:Well, we can, if you would like to come back, we can talk when, when you've got a little bit more determined exactly what that's going to be. We can, we can chat about it again and we can share with everybody what. What that incentive is as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, completely. Yes, yes, yes, for sure.
Speaker A:Excellent. Wonderful. So is there anything else that you would like to share with us? Anything that you feel really passionately in terms of.
Well, let's say about the community, for example, is there anything with the communities that you're working with? Because I know when I was over there was, there was a, there was a recording team there.
I won't mention from, from which company, but there was a recording team there, wasn't there. And did anything. Yeah. Did anything happen with that?
Speaker B:And I think they were like the, the Italian one. Yes, this. Yes, yes, yes. He posted it like a video of the View and Ventanilla and Escovilla projects in their web page. That was Keep the Planet.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay. And some people contacted me and so on. Yeah, it was very beautiful. I posted in also.
Speaker A:Yeah. Obviously I can't mention names, so. Yes. But if you want me, because. And there's that on your website as well. Any information about that?
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Okay, great. So if you, if you'd like to see what all that is about, then please do have a look on the website.
I would just like to say thank you so much for all the wonderful work you do in the world. You massively are an inspiration.
And the way you've inspired the communities, the way you've inspired who would have been poachers to change the way of looking at their life and being more. No, me being more at one with nature, it's. It's just so important.
I'm just keeping Mother Earth and Gaia in, in such a beautiful way and respecting and caring because we're, we're all here together, aren't we? We're not where there shouldn't be a hierarchy, I feel, you know, we're all animals and humans is not that we should be this and plants and nature.
So thank you so much for the wonderful, wonderful work that you do. You are amazing.
Speaker B:Thank you so much to you. Alim.
I am so happy to see you again because we, we talk many times after you leave, but it's true that we didn't see each other Instagram all the time.
Speaker A:Yeah. We'll chat afterwards anyway and I would love you to come back on again as well, please and, and share more with us.
And I will post everything so you can get in touch with Beatrice and speak about collaboration, speak about going on these incredible voluntary experiences. I absolutely recommend them. And. And also if anybody would like to donate to any of the causes as well, that's possible to do as well.
So I will post all the information. So thank you so, so much for being here. My gorgeous. Besos. Besos. Besos mucho. Garcia paratien el mundo.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for listening, everybody. And thank you so much, Aline. Really, really. I was so excited about this.
Speaker A:I wish you so many blessings with all that you're doing and it's just, just incredible. Thank you for you.
